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Apple to sue Motorola?

Originally posted by GPTurismo
Maybe they will try to weasel all the patents for the G3s, G4s and G5s out of them so they choose vendors of their own O:)
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Ooooh, now there's a good idea. :)

P.S.-Hey GPTurismo, where in Montgomery do you live? I just moved back to town while I'm taking some time off from school.
 
Originally posted by dukestreet
It would be interesting to see what they do. Being still dependant on the G4 for the iMacs and PowerBooks after the 970 is released, I don' t know it would be such a good idea to piss Moto off.

Unless Apple has plans to move everything over to the 970 by next year - that would be nuts!

D
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As one of the discussion group's lawyers, I'll just make this one observation. While logical, the fear that Apple would risk its supply of G4 (or G3) Motorola chips by filing suit against Moto is not a factor. I assume there is a contract btw the two for delivery of so-many chips on such and such a schedule. Even if there is a legal action over another issue (G5 chips), both sides are obliged to fulfill the terms of thier other contracts. So Apple can't just stop buying G4's because Moto can't deliver a G5, and Moto can't stop shipping even if they're sued. There is probably some sort of notice requirement, which Apple most likely plans on invoking anyway when the 970 pipeline is established.

Anyway, demand for G4 chips will dwindle to almost nothing (except in notebooks?) about 1 minute after the 970 announcement is made, and Apple knows that as well as everyone.
 
They could switch everything over to 970s. The problem is the Powerbooks, which use G4s. Last I heard there were no 970s suitable for use in portables. Maybe they could stockpile G4s. iBooks are of course fine, the g3 is quite mature and I hear they've been sitting on much faster versions.
 
Lawsuits are a cost of doing business

I can't tell you how many clients I've had to advise regarding cost analysis of lawsuits.

When a large company sues another large company, the costs are enormous. Even if they win, they lose. Lawsuits are extrememly expensive, time consuming, bad publicity, etc...

If apple goes forward with this, I would anticipate few, if any good results.
 
This means I'm gonna have to change my screen name for sure. It will only bring up feelings of hate and sorrow in the future...

How about IBM4Scott, or IBM4Mac4Scott...

At least I never had the name G5scott...

This sounds like fun. Lets all sue moto...
 
Who needs Universal Music for a cash cow when you can just sue your way out of this "slump in the technology market?" There's a little town here in Alabama that's very popular for huge lawsuits. Apple could rake in TRILLIONS!

cheers!
 
Originally posted by Chisholm
Who needs Universal Music for a cash cow when you can just sue your way out of this "slump in the technology market?" There's a little town here in Alabama that's very popular for huge lawsuits. Apple could rake in TRILLIONS!

cheers!
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You must be talking about that hole down in Barbour county where Jerry Beasley wins all of his multi million dollar lawsuits. Damn, I have GOT to get me a cash cow like that.
 
Disloyalty

Such Motorola disloyalty. Nearly everyone on this site bashes Moto, the company that was god when the G4 first came out.
 
the alliance

Does anyone know if the AIM PowerPC alliance is still together in any official/formal sense? Or is it like the relationship between microsoft and Apple now?
 
I'm wondering if this is Motos revenge for Jobs killing the clones and costing them millions. Now it's their turn.

Glad to see them leave I say. IBM is much more capable and if we should move to Intel, then so be it. It doesn't make a difference what the processor is inside, as long as Apple's R&D keeps putting out these great products and stays ahead of the game.
 
New sound sosuthem

If IBM could get their Altivec compatible technology in their G3s and release the 970, Apple could afford to dump Motorola. According to some the 1Ghz IBM G3 outperfomsa 1GHz Motorala G4 in non-Altivec situations.
 
Originally posted by dstorey
can only be a good thing, provided they don't get their fingers burned my moto in the mean time...maybe the money will pay for the purchase of universal music ;)
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i have always seen SJ as a cunning business man :p
 
Re: Disloyalty

Originally posted by acj
Such Motorola disloyalty. Nearly everyone on this site bashes Moto, the company that was god when the G4 first came out.
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I'm loyal only to those respect my loyalty. Moto has abandoned us for years. That's why many of us are angry at them. Hope you understand.
 
I hope there aren't too many flames from this, but I sure do hope that we actually do get the 970 and this whole thing doesn't just blow up in all of our faces. . .
 
Yeh, apple can sue them for bucket fulls of money and give it to Jonathon Ives and the R&D team (where most of their money goes anyways), yeh.:D
 
Unfortunately, the whole situation with the G5 is similar to what happened with Motorola and the 68060. It took too long and no one was interested by the time it was ready. They tried to sway Apple toward the 88000 as well, a chip family powering Data General workstations. It was only IBM's influence the last time that helped Apple out of the Motorola jam.

Hopefully, Motorola will get what's coming to them.
 
Originally posted by dukestreet
It would be interesting to see what they do. Being still dependant on the G4 for the iMacs and PowerBooks after the 970 is released, I don' t know it would be such a good idea to piss Moto off.

Unless Apple has plans to move everything over to the 970 by next year - that would be nuts!

D
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I'm sure Apple could get a court order preventing Moto from retaliating by cutting production until the life of the suit ended.

Even if they couldn't, Moto would realize that cutting production of more chips would only further Apple's claim against them, strengthening Apple's case again.

Dan
 
Re: Disloyalty

Originally posted by acj
Such Motorola disloyalty. Nearly everyone on this site bashes Moto, the company that was god when the G4 first came out.
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Perhaps then, you have forgotten that the G4 was only ever REALLY great when Moto and Apple first announced it. Remember? "PowerMacs with speeds of 400, 450, and 500 Mhz G4's", then "whoops, we meant 350, 400, and 450, yeah, that's the ticket". And then, much later, well, we are still at 500, but we're putting TWO of them in there now.

Moto has been a lead weight since the arrival of the G4.

BTW, as far as I can remember, the AIM alliance is still together, which is why Apple is still buying chips from IBM AND Moto and neither is raising a fuss...yet. :)

Regards,
Gus
 
In the Grand Tradition of the American Legal System,

LET'S PILE ON WITH A CLASS ACTION SUIT! :)

"Your honor, the cliens I represent have for years needlessly suffer the cruel taunts and justs of their PC using friends as a result of the heinous actions of Motorola. I demand a recourse! I demand they be compensated for their agony, for their shame! For their humiliation!"
 
Re: Disloyalty

Originally posted by acj
Such Motorola disloyalty. Nearly everyone on this site bashes Moto, the company that was god when the G4 first came out.
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god? not quite. i was waiting for a G4 back in the day and it was slower than expected, did less per cycle than expected, and was already difficult for moto to manufacture. remember the speed dump? i do.
 
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