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Good. Waiting for the Mac platform to have more marketshare. I'm sick of and done with Windows.
 
They have the Mac Mini, the iMac 21", and the iMac 27". Three consumer desktop computers. It seems that the things that are important to you are not the things that are important to the majority of Apple's customers.

With mobile unserviceable parts though. What's the point of a desktop with the deficiencies of a laptop?. It's a tragedy to call those devices desktops.
Just buy a MacBook Pro IMO. Connect an external monitor if you need screen size.
The macs you listed are redundant.
 
With mobile unserviceable parts though. What's the point of a desktop with the deficiencies of a laptop?. It's a tragedy to call those devices desktops.
Just buy a MacBook Pro IMO. Connect an external monitor if you need screen size.
The macs you listed are redundant.
Tragedy?
Most of the Apples I've had since 91 have needed no servicing.
My quicksilver from 2002 is still a fine internet machine.
Actually out of the machines you listed the best bang for the buck tho is the mac mini.
I think the biggest mistake Apple is making is removing the CD/dvd from their computers.
I think the corpulent corporate wonks at Apple should look on their own website to see how many people are unhappy with apple's external dvd/cd unit.
I think that IOS 7 is a train wreck as well, but hey they have a few gimmies coming.
 
Why would you want to take Mac Pro on a plane? Desktops aren't meant for portability, they are meant to used at a single place. You'll be better off with a Macbook Pro if you want portability.

Regardless, this is no excuse for a desktop computer to make it hard if not possible at all to upgrade CPU/GPU (and maybe storage). 256GB storage for a pro machine, really?! And I don't understand the point of keeping everything external, it creates so much clutter.


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If you like the idea of a non-upgradable pro machine (relative to the outgoing model) and trashcan design with clutter, this Mac Pro will certainly appeal to you.

Can't innovate anymore, my ass;):rolleyes:

I've heard of people taking their 40 LB Mac Pro towers to and from work each day... people do it for some strange reason.

And what makes you assume that everyone needs all that stuff? I do web development, yes definitely I want a video deck :rolleyes:
 
Waiting for the Mini to get the Haswell bump. I suppose a monitor refresh is near as well. Looks like the end of January before anything like that happens.
 
I'm honestly waiting for Apple to innovate with pricing :p. Seriously though I'd love to see Apple lower prices for some of their computers like they used to in the old days.

I remember when the Mac Mini started at $499!
 
Everyone now knows if you want a superior computing experience then Apple is the only name to trust in the business. That's why Mac adoption is soaring in the enterprise and Microsoft is on the way to extinction.
 
Good. Waiting for the Mac platform to have more marketshare. I'm sick of and done with Windows.

Why do you have to wait for the Mac platform's market share to do better? No need to wait.

If you're tired of Windows and ready to move to Mac, then the right time already arrived. No need to watch market share numbers.

If Windows is the better fit for you, then use Windows. But if Mac is the more suitable platform for you, then use it already. Don't let market share numbers influence your decision. Tracking market share numbers is for the insane.

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What is a "Volkswagon?"

Fahrvergnügen!
 
If Windows is the better fit for you, then use Windows. But if Mac is the more suitable platform for you, then use it already. Don't let market share numbers influence your decision. Tracking market share numbers is for the insane.

The market share matters because with so many users on Windows, less software is made for Mac. It's been getting better since 2003 but still has a way to go, especially with certain games and hardware drivers (specifically printers). Yes, I use the Mac in my signature, but it comes with frustrations associated with being in the minority for worldwide users.

Plus it's best if all my friends use Macs so we can use iChat (stupidly also called Messages) instead of fiddling with garbage like Skype, same goes with other software. And I'm sick of being forced to use it whenever I have to use a school computer. Always something really annoying involving PDFs or ZIPs goes wrong. You can't really escape it.
 
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what on earth are you talking about? the MP is no more "disposable" than your television or home receiver. or car, for that matter. you can repair each one of these devices. but the MP is the only one that you plug new stuff into. durrrr

if you can't afford the Pro, you aren't in that market. deal with that, because its ok. not everything is for you.



I own a hex Mac Pro, and the first generation Mac Pro, and have had several Power Macs over the years. Money is not a problem. Design is. It's a crap design, and if you think it isn't, you aren't the one who needs this type of "workstation/desktop".

Go have a look at the Mac Pro forum here. Overall, it's not a very popular design amongst people who want or need a all in one powerful computer.

MacVidCards has also pointed out another interesting flaw in its design: that it only has a 450w PSU and that the computer will be limited to full throttle CPU tasks or full throttle GPU tasks, but not both simultaneously without a serious slow down of one or the other.

It's a piss poor design. It's a reimagination of the failed G4 Cube, only this time it's being forced down our throats by the removal of the true Pro desktop Apple offered.
 
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I've heard of people taking their 40 LB Mac Pro towers to and from work each day... people do it for some strange reason.

And what makes you assume that everyone needs all that stuff? I do web development, yes definitely I want a video deck :rolleyes:

Why would you need a Mac Pro for web development? Would a MacBook Pro not work?
 
Try taking the current/old Mac pro on a plane.

New Mac Pro + external Thunderbolt raid array = more processing power, more storage, significantly less weight/space.



HAHAHA

You say try taking the old Mac Pro on a plane and then you go and list "more storage [and] significantly less weight/space" while at the sometime ignoring you only get that by adding tons of external peripherals that I doubt anyone would ever want to take on a plane too.

The old computer may be heavy, but at least everything was all in one!
 
"The Apple TV also remained at the top spot for the most sought after streaming media device, topping the Roku TV."

Not bad, considering this always will be "just a hobby"

Nice work..

Mavericks has nothing to do with it selling more... Apple could have still bundles Mountain Lion, or even 10.7, and it would still sell as best as ever.

This just shows people like designs... Apple may be popular in U.S, but they sure as arn't that big here in Australia..

There are companies switching their businesses to Mac all the time, but it not as fast as U.S by far.. Same with iOS ....

We would still buy Dell by the bucket load too.
 
With mobile unserviceable parts though. What's the point of a desktop with the deficiencies of a laptop?. It's a tragedy to call those devices desktops.
Just buy a MacBook Pro IMO. Connect an external monitor if you need screen size.
The macs you listed are redundant.

Mac Mini is much less cheaper than a Macbook Pro if you are going to use it with a display. iMac is more powerful than a MBP on all fronts. So no, they are not alternatives to a MBP.
 
It's not being a commodity that is the problem, it's that the buyer can't compare value in a meaningful way. Sausages are a commodity, but I can buy them, decide which ones taste better, and stick with them. You sell more sausages if you make a quality product, even though they are a commodity. And that's not true for PCs. You make less profit by making a quality product but you don't get more sales. The only one escaping that trap is Apple, by making a product that is different enough.

I think we have very different ideas what a commodity is. I'm coming from a market background where a commodity is any product group so generic it has very little pricing power. PCs in 2013 are exactly that way. Many brands use the same OS, same processors, GPUs, etc. There is little or no technical differentiation between, say, an entry model Dell & one by HP. That is the definition of a commodity product. PC consumers are not brand loyal. They'll buy the least expensive machine @ the feature set they need & will not pay a premium for a particular brand or only look at one or two brands.

Your example - sausages. Packaged sausages are not a commodity because there is differentiation in the market between brands regarding taste, texture, etc of the finished product. Brands have been built around those features building customer loyalty & pricing power for their products. However, raw pork -- that is a quintessential commodity traded daily at market price.
 
Who? Try more people wanting dells than Macs. Secondly, look at dell sales vs. Mac. Everyone wants a Porsche but they buy Volkswagon.

The company I work for actually goes bonkers over HP workstations for their PC editing and graphics needs. Our I.T. department HATES Dell.
 
boogieman theories? It's common knowledge. Just like the fact that most enterprise IT departments have started making Apple available to their employees and have reaped higher productivity, reliability and reduced support calls.
Show me proof of higher productivity in a business use, not artistic usage.
A computer is a computer in the business/industry world but reliability & flexibility is key.This is were Apple fails but schools like them because it allows their students to learn massive computer troubleshooting skills on a regular basis.
 
I hope so too, but only if that means that Apple makes a new one that can actually be upgraded with video cards, 3.5" hard drives, etc.

But that wont happen, Apple is trying REAL hard to kill the Mac Pro line and sell disposable products right across the board... just look what they did to the iMac and MacBook Pro.

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LOL, you actually took a Mac Pro on flights?! My god... just get a decent laptop.. . All the MacBook Pros with a Sandybridge processor or better are more than capable.

You know squat about the needs of Proper Visual effects guys don't you. No laptop is powerful enough for the sort of stuff I do.

And you have no idea how fast and powerful the nMP is. It's incredible. Ho watch the Pixar / mari demo. NOTHING has ever run like that on any PC / Linux before. It is metal.

Oh and the New Mac Pro would have been the 8th Fastest computer in the world in 2003. Yes Room sized Super computers from only 10 years ago.
 
boogieman theories? It's common knowledge. Just like the fact that most enterprise IT departments have started making Apple available to their employees and have reaped higher productivity, reliability and reduced support calls.

Someone should tell our marketing department's iMacs to stop thinking different and read mc3k's memo. Apparently they haven't because we get just as many tickets from them as when they were on Dell machines. These are "veteran" OS X users too.

The company I work for actually goes bonkers over HP workstations for their PC editing and graphics needs. Our I.T. department HATES Dell.

HP Zs are very fine machines... couple that with HPs next day on site repair for hardware failure and you get a pretty fine package. Even then, failure is really rare... its a good product. Dell Workstations leave a bit to be desired sometimes and sad fully we cannot convince our radiology department to not use them.

And you have no idea how fast and powerful the nMP is. It's incredible. Ho watch the Pixar / mari demo. NOTHING has ever run like that on any PC / Linux before. It is metal.

You are for certain that there is no Z, BOXX or whitebox right now that isn't as fast or faster than the nMP?
 
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