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No, Windows 7 was not supposed to kill the Mac. And Microsoft still makes more profit...so yeah.
I think its good they went above MS to have their market capitalization actually make sense.
In a capitalist society, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Millions of people are picking up MSFT products so from a capitalist's point of view, it is worth it. Im all for companies making lots of money as long as they are contributing to the wider society (jobs, charity, looking after the environment) and reinvesting their cash into the business, not lining the directors pockets.
Its the internet, I admit its annoying but never take anyone on the internet by face value. Its makes forums like this a lot more enjoyable when you realise that most people are WUMs.
I went a bit off subject there but I'm essentially saying don't treat your interactions on internet forums the same way you would in "real" life.
No, Apple would never do that unless they just wanna get rid of MS. The company itself is worthless. They just make more money because of their connections to computer hardware makers.
Good, I wanna see Apple win this. Then we can get rid of a trashy OS as our most used OS (Windows). Seriously, Windows is only more popular because of MSs power and the past of Macs (which wasn't very good after the Lisa). The actual Windows OS is junk.
The problem is...Apple's getting the money by dominating with the iPhone/iPad and iPod, not the Mac.
Keynote is only installed on a tiny fraction of machines in classrooms/lecture halls/conference centers, therefore, I have to use PPT to ensure software compatibility even if Keynote is better.
Those are the breaks. At least OSX finally (since 2004) has a Windows/OSX interchangeable version of MS Office.
Your categorical dismissal of iWork apps for "real work" is laughable to me. Each tool on each platform has strengths and weaknesses, and anyone interested in doing real work as efficiently and profitably as possible will discover the strengths of each, and use the best tool for the job. On my Mac, I regularly switch between iWork, Office for the Mac, and Office in windows, depending on the task and my knowledge of the strengths of each.
What is this real scientific work you guys are talking about??? Excel slows down to a halt if you try to plot a graph with more than a few thousand data points, freezes your computer way before 100000 rows of data and has nonexistent statistical capabilities. Word and Powerpoint never export any equations for printing correctly and compress all figures to < 300 dpi. Something is really wrong with your lab if you are trying to analyze your data or prepare a manuscript with Office. Office is for high school and secretarial work at best, both of which iWork is more than capable of.
Yeah, the comment about using Office instead of iWork for "real scientific work" was laughable as well. I can do "real scientfic work" with paper, pen and and a calculator. More complex work demands Matlab or Mathematica. Middle ground work I find excel to work well, but I like Numbers better for financial analysis. Again, best tool for the job. Categorical dismissals to me just indicates the poster is a crusted over stodgy too set in their ways.
Good point. Powerpoint is useful if you don't have any means of plugging a laptop. Again I'll reiterate, I use both office and iWork but I won't take the dismissal of iWork as a serious work tool.
1. Compatibility. Anything else?
All of my research grants (NIH/NSF/DoD/DOE/DFG/FP7/ERC) are written with Word because it's the most stable/reliable and converts to PDF with the smaller number of rendering issues. This is a huge issue with other software packages (openoffice, etc...)
Some granting agencies actually used to take out a ruler and if a sixth line of text starts with the same vertical inch, the grants was automatically returned to sender. I can't have any issues and Word is the de facto standard for grant writing.
PDF is easiest to distribute because it's entirely cross-platform.
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All the office fanboys have disappeared again.
Of course most people are going to be biased on a macrumors forum. What I don't get is people who are so obviously apposed to anything Apple does, coming on here. Whats the point?
To be fair, MS stands a decent chance of reinventing itself before it is forced to do so and before the financial situation deteriorates. Despite their money losing businesses, their OS, Office and Server products are still making money hand over fist (although the growth is declining)
They are a successful company at present and for the near future at least. They will obviously have to innovate and find other ways to make money. They are trying with cloud computing and the consumer (Xbox, and Windows Phone 7, etc.) but they are late to the party of some of these.
Still, IBM reinvented itself so can Microsoft. An enterprise is just an engine to make a profit, how you do it in the future is up to all those expensive executives to figure out.
This takes nothing away from Apple's amazing success and this big milestone.
There is nothing else.
Without compatibility, any software is useless and that's why MS Office will never be excluded from any academic circle.
I would never write a multi-M grant on iWork. I can't be sure that it will print correctly and open correctly on someone else's machine.
Not worth the gamble ... MSOffice4lyfe!
Hardly, as I said they both have their strengths but I've seen no evidence to suggest that you can't do real work on iWork.
Real work is presenting/sharing/promoting the work. Compiling the document is the easy part.
I have both Office and iWork and buy the latest version of each as soon as they are out. I do " real work" on iWork every day. For some things i like one over the other.
Presentation is one of the strengths of pages!
Not sure what you mean by promoting, but sharing convert to PDF - simples!
Compatibility is a broad term. Your definition revolves around layout precisions. Others may find the ability to print to be adequate compatibility. Personally, I find the ability to print to PDF from all Mac apps covers about 99% of my compatibility needs. Compatibility depends on your delivery requirements, and for many, Apple has that covered. Has for years now, actually.
I'm surprised that you are so comfortable with word for your particular layout requirements. I find word to be an arm wrestling match against auto-changes to get it to format the way I want. I wonder if your comfort with word is not the result of familiarity more than capabilities. Personally, if I had formatting requirements as tight as you describe, I would have dropped Word years ago and moved to something like LaTeX.
Some revenue stats...
Annual revenue figures:
AMZN - $30.78B
AAPL - $65.22B
HP - $123.53B
WMT - $416.66B
Those who claim that revenue is more important than profits should think again. If a company (or a person) takes a loan (for one day) $100B, buys, say, oil and then sells it for $99B, this company would make $99B in revenues. What a great business - better than Apple.
Annual revenue figures:
AMZN - $30.78B
AAPL - $65.22B
HP - $123.53B
WMT - $416.66B
Those who claim that revenue is more important than profits should think again. If a company (or a person) takes a loan (for one day) $100B, buys, say, oil and then sells it for $99B, this company would make $99B in revenues. What a great business - better than Apple.
When I think of yard sticks for measuring a company's size, the first three that come to mind are revenue, profit and market cap. Apple has 2 out of 3 on MS now. In the next few quarters when Apple has all 3, can we stop arguing over who is bigger?
First of all terrible analogy.
Apples income is higher than hp, so what your point. The thing a lot of people are forgetting is that apple are a huge company but their growth rate is much, much higher than any of the companies near them. This why it's market cap is higher than msft and will probably by higher than exxon very soon.
I wouldn't be surprised if apples income was higher than microsofts in the next quarter.