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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year

dooyou said:
Wow, okay, now what? Actually, I was gonna spend my money and buy a new Macbook Pro. But after this announcement?

The short presentation was of course quite superficial. Just "wow, it's all so fast!" But what it meant exactly, you were left in the dark, of course. Especially the performance regarding Rosetta 2.
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Yeah, look! Smooth smoothing back and forth! Wow! Playback works! We can also play native Tomb Raider in 1080p...
 
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Metrosey said:
I wonder if we'll get an ARM and Intel CPUs as configuration options within each Mac released in the future.
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Doubtful...they didn’t do that with the PowerPC to Intel transition. Besides, there are going to be fundamental differences between the two that preclude a simple CPU swap in the BTO screen. I suspect that the iMac, iMac Pro and MacBook Pro will get one more refresh each, but that the MBA and mini are already ready to go in Apple silicon.
 
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What about people who bought $20K Mac Pro?

Could someone please explain to me whats going on here? I thought the ARM architecture is not as fast as x86, meaning Macs will always be slower.

I am also guessing we will see a lot less Mac apps in the future as it will be difficult to build a Windows x86 one and a special ARM Mac one. My only guessing they are relying in the iOS/Android software library?
 
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Fabio_gsilva said:
I'm getting old. I vividly remember when Steve Jobs announced the transition from IBM to Intel. He also savored the moment getting a big dump on IBM heads mentioning the unfulfilled promises and disclosing that macs were living this "double life" IBM vs Intel for years.
Lots of people got crazy and anxious and like now, promised to never buy a Mac again as power pc were what truly represented the Mac at the time and... all went well and we have amazing macs.
I'm sure that this time will be MUCH much better for us, users.
Well done, Apple!
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Let's wait and see, but I am optimistic they will do a good job.
 
This is very welcome and much needed. Frankly, I even expected Arm to overcome x86 much quicker than that (like 5 years ago).
 
For users of macbook air this move makes sense. for macbook, real 'pro' users I don't see this as a good thing. Major advantage of running iOS apps? but who wants that?

it is solely done to control more their products and profit even more.

it would have to be really powerful to be able to handle bootcamp and windows at the same performance level. Apple was never about performance so this change is not about intel being slow. it's to control and lock in one more aspect.

and no, windows for arm is not 'windows'. The advantage of having bootcamp and windows is to ensure it will run all windows apps, no problems, not just having a windows-like UI
 
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macbwizard said:
They didn't really share any benchmarks or comparisons beyond that vague graph.
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Yeah, I was a bit surprised by that... But I suppose the bigger effort, in a way, is on the software side. For hardware, they're in kind of a great place, I'd think, since they've been running these fast, low-power systems for many years now. Really, they now have the opportunity to "unwind" a little, worrying less about heat dissipation and power consumption. I mean, to achieve higher-end desktop performance, that is (those will both still be important, I'm sure).
I was excited to see that Logic Pro X was already running on A-series. Would be curious to know how it stacks up—for example, against my 16" MacBook Pro.... ?
 
deaglecat said:
... and no more Hackintoshes.

Probably a good thing !
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Shockingly, my Hacbook Pro continues to work, how can this even be possible with this immediate enforced irreversible transition?!?!?!

DinkThifferent said:
Everybody who's crying about "oh my new intel mac is worthless now" CLEARLY did NOT watch the keynote, cause Tim Apple said: "We are going to support Intel Macs for YEARS TO COME and even going to release new Intel Macs this year, before releasing our first hardware with Apple Silicon later this year"
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Hmm, might be relevant. Hard to tell.
 
yozh said:
WOW, so my 3k+ MBP from Nov 2019 just became obsolete ? NICE !
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Nope. Not for a couple of years. Besides, this was bound to happen, because Intel kept postponing new CPU releases. And really, their performance per Watt trajectory has been poor. Current processors run way too hot. Not so much a problem for large desktops like Mac Pros, but people are more on the move than ever before, and laptops are the powerhouses people want to be working with. I think the world will move to ARM. Microsoft will move to ARM. And to have phones, tablets, desktops, and laptops run the same CPU will be amazing. The era of Intel is over. Also, if we can get amazing GPU performance at low wattage, that would be great. A world where powerful Macs will run silently would be good, no? Would we see the return of the trashcan Mac pro if the thermal design of Apple's own CPU and GPU will be much much better than Intel and AMD can ever provide? But even a Mac mini form factor can probably house a beast with Apple's future silicon, that's what I'm hoping. High performance gaming might finally come to the Mac, again without having to have fans on full blast.
 
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brinary001 said:
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Please, save your condescension for someone else. I've left the Mac before for years and I'll do it again. When I think about what keeps me buying their products it usually comes down to iMessage and the overall integration between devices. That isn't enough this time. This messes with my ability to do work.
 
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Based on the info and dev kit
-bootcamp will still available after sept/oct with the release of windows10 arm to buy
- first mac with arm will be after sept based on the next a14 silicon 5nm vs intel 14nm
The apps that are not build for arm will lose between 4-10% performance thanks to the perfect emulation
While on surface proX the emulation can lose up to 62% of performance
 
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azentropy said:
Great presentation, but would have liked to see some hard numbers/benchmarks
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The A14 is not final yet. Why would they show off benchmarks now when they could still get more performance out of it in the future and show it off then?

Also will be able to compare it to the newest CPUs from Intel and amd. Instead of what they currently have. It would be a waste for benchmarks right now.
 
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It feels like they have Osborned themselves a little, I was thinking about buying a new Mac to replace my 2014 retina but now I feel like I should hold off. I can imagine lower cost Macs now since they will have less overhead with Intel. Since they can build a $399 iPhone with an A13, I bet they can build an A13 powered Mac Mini and sell it back down at $499 when the very first Mac mini G4 was released.
 
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