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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year

V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r said:
Hehe, it was exactly my first question... My bet is, though, Windows 10 for ARM will become compatible one day. If not Apple, if not Microsoft, then the community will make it happen (I know what I'm talking about, as for years I've been among the people working on better drivers and improvements for Boot Camp, such as Trackpad++ drivers, etc.). In fact, 'The Boot Campers' community is tens of millions of people worldwide. Huge one, actually.
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Mark my words, Apple will never open up the Mac bootloader to another OS.

Apple will never write Windows drivers for their A12z CPU or something.

They will never write Windows drivers for their GPU.

Once Apple does that, Qualcomm and Microsoft will learn all the secrets that they have locked up inside their silicon.
 
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nihil0 said:
I think that with these new Mac Pros they have to at least keep the support going for 7 years
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I really hope so... since my 2020 MBP just arrived 2 days ago and I was coming from 2013 MBP which lasted me a very healthy 7 years, and I'm hoping to keep my 2020 MBP into 2027...
 
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kinless said:
I like how during the Virtualization feature demo, they only mention Linux and not Windows. As a full stack web developer, I need all environments, so it makes me nervous. Need more info before deciding if I'm going to make the jump to their silicon or begrudgingly transition my primary machine to a PC. Here's hoping...
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Even Microsoft barely supports Windows on ARM. That's probably a good reason why Apple didn't mention Windows.
 
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One big question. My order of iMac 2019 is still awaiting and will get delivery next month. Should I cancel or it will be OK run for next 8/9 years ? Most of the iMac can run smoothly about 10 year without too much problem but I think I heard that Tim said will only support intel Mac for only 2 years ? what will happen after two years ?
 
nihil0 said:
To me it seems it was their own integrated GPU (as it was demoed on Mac Mini it is the same as using Intel's iGPU). But I also wonder whether machines like 16" MBP and iMac will use AMD GPUs or only Apple own silicon.
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Apple's own GPU's. The whole point is not to have third party CPU/GPU's. All Apple Silicon. Tim even showed the 1000x GPU gains. Clearly no more Nvidia or AMD.
 
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I have a late 2015 27in iMac which I bought in early 2017. so this is fine, I’ll buy a new iMac in around mid-2022. I bought a 2019 MBP last June so that will last me for years to come.

It’s all fine, these transitions will be smooth and life will go on!
 
The next two years will be exciting, as we will see how Ax Macs form factors will be. With better thermals and power, they might actually give the iPad Pros a run for their money.

Of course, this will be bleeding edge. The first round of intel Macs are 32bit only Core Duos/Solos. And they got deprecated fairly quickly with the move to 64bit. It's usually better to wait for the 2nd gen.
 
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Is anyone else like not really worried by this at all? Intel Macs will be continue to be supported for at least three years from the point the latest one is sold.

Your 2019 MP's aren't suddenly outdated.

I'd imagine they'd start with an all new MacBook powered by an ARM chip and slowly introduce more variants over the years to come.
 
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So what would happen to the Mac Pro chips since they were intel designed. Would Apple continue to use new upgraded chips from intel or will they have a Z type chip for Mac Pro like they do for iPhone and iPad for performance.
 
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There will be a long time support for Intel based Macs - they just released the MacPro and I have the feeling upgrades there will be on the way for the HW. I doubt Apple can yet replace it with custom ARM chips.

I wonder how will they differentiate between iMac and iMac Pro.... besides RAM, SSD and Screen resolution.
iMac will be clearly the first redesign.

Interesting line of products coming up in autumn. Big change on the Mac.
 
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its93rc said:
I am guessing it would lead to better battery life, performance, cooling, etc?

Can someone fill me in what the major differences between Intel and Apple chips would be? I've tried searching and found nothing reliable, but I am very interested on the subject. I'm guessing people will pen these differences later but anything early-on would be solid.
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Apple claimed with a vague chart that the performance per energy usage is much improved.
 
nihil0 said:
To me it seems it was their own integrated GPU (as it was demoed on Mac Mini it is the same as using Intel's iGPU). But I also wonder whether machines like 16" MBP and iMac will use AMD GPUs or only Apple own silicon.
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My guess is that AMD will create custom GPUs for them
 
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