Old x86 app could be emulated.
New app will support that, especially after Apple's transition.
Windows OEM will have to catch up with Apple using ARM chip instead of legacy and slow x86 CPUs.
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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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Old x86 app could be emulated.
New app will support that, especially after Apple's transition.
Windows OEM will have to catch up with Apple using ARM chip instead of legacy and slow x86 CPUs.
No it wasn't a Mac Pro it was a 16GB Mac Mini with a A12z chip. The Mini was attached to the Pro XDR display. Craig mentioned he was running the entire demo on an Apple SoC and showed us in About this Mac.
If they are that sensitive to performance behavior than an intel game wouldn't run on an AMD chip, and an i9 game wouldn't run on an i3.
I think Intel has hit a wall with their chips. That’s why you keep seeing lower and lower frequencies with “boost” instead. I think arms future looks brighter than intel anyway in terms of growth.
Because it was sitting around doing nothing. Now it's running 40TB of drives in a Thunderbolt enclosure with ZFS.
The point is...whenever I was done with my Intel Mac hardware for daily use, there was always a cool/fun way to repurpose it.
I used my Late 2009 iMac as a monitor for my Alienware Laptop for about a year before I sold the iMac. Beautiful screen and Apple let me use it based on my imagination, not their closed ecosystem.
Yeah. Apple...jeez. Giving us more performance and better power consumption. How dare them...
I believed the A12Z is the same chip that is in the iPad Pro that was just released.
Yep. All of the software will stop working the moment macOS 11 ships. Your Mac is a ticking bomb!
I was referring to community reception. Whether that be a forum or newspaper articles. Just saying this could go either way.
There's no such thing as drivers for a CPU. You cannot run Intel software on ARM CPU, unless you either emulate or translate. Microsoft cannot even run Windows applications on ARM. Only a handful of basic 32-bit apps, not complicated ones, and it's super slow. Forget about running Windows on ARM, unless Microsoft writes something like Rosetta.
Yes many of these comments could be copied and pasted from the PPC/Intel thread and they would fit right in. Hilarious,really.
Jon got pawned, he was given wrong info about iOS becoming iPhoneOS and his source got caught. Maybe Xcode iPad was also a trap.
Neither are secure. SFTP is what everyone should be using anyway.
Reading the epic rants and freak outs here is better than a tele novella. So much ****ing angst, wailing and gnashing of teeth. Oh, and people who think they’re smarter than the C-Suite at Apple. Well, you don’t. They didn’t just arrive at this decision over beers on a Friday night group outing.
I just put extra butter on my popcorn and cracked open a fresh Mountain Dew.
The Bintel Boosters League cannot depart soon enough. I keep hearing how macOS sucks and Windows 10 is so much better and never had any trouble with, Yada Yada. Well, time to buy up or shut up. Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
Complain about Apple’s motivations all you want, but I am ready for some good old fashioned change and this is it. Better than poking their other eye out wasting time with AMD and that bag of hurt. This is going to be exciting, thrilling and somewhat terrifying. Those of you who hate change, please see yourselves out.
I just put extra butter on my popcorn and cracked open a fresh Mountain Dew.
The Bintel Boosters League cannot depart soon enough. I keep hearing how macOS sucks and Windows 10 is so much better and never had any trouble with, Yada Yada. Well, time to buy up or shut up. Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
Complain about Apple’s motivations all you want, but I am ready for some good old fashioned change and this is it. Better than poking their other eye out wasting time with AMD and that bag of hurt. This is going to be exciting, thrilling and somewhat terrifying. Those of you who hate change, please see yourselves out.
Some apps were still 32-bit only until a couple years ago, like Office. Developers tend to lag at supporting new stuff and dropping old stuff unless supporting the old stuff costs them extra.
I'd be surprised if developers turned off the x64 builds quickly, so long as they weren't spending gobs of time building them locally, or aren't using a bunch of assembler (geez, I hope not). Bitcode can help smaller devs here as well.
Parallels/VMWare and similar stuff that sits on bare metal more than most apps are probably going to be the first to drop Intel support on macOS.
Yeah, although this now puts all of the Intel models Apple sells on a 2 year clock. Within 2 years, no new Intel Macs will be available if they hold to schedule. So they won't be living side by side for long on the shelves. If you are in line for an upgrade soon and want it to be Intel so you can ride out the transition, do it sooner rather than later, IMO.
My main worry is that their workstation-level hardware will lag and wind up too slow compared to Intel/AMD offerings. Especially since they were mostly showing off the A12Z, which is a fine processor, but more laptop-class than something that can replace the highest end iMac, iMac Pro or Mac Pro. Also, they mentioned nothing about AMD GPUs (internal or external).
Unlike with Intel, they aren't switching to something that has a full lineup ready to go, so there's some really big question marks that they really should have considered addressing for the prosumer/professional end of their market. Hopefully we get more nuts and bolts during the sessions rolling out this week.
Oh, I get their motivations, but I think if the complaint is that Apple hasn't demonstrated that it can replace R9/i9 or Threadripper/Xeon class hardware with their in-house silicon, there's a point. They haven't. They should in order to help demonstrate the value here.
But honestly, if going to Apple silicon means I can get a 16" MBP that runs as hard as the i7 in the base model, but also includes the 5300M or similar, and doesn't spin up the fans every time I do something remotely taxing? I'm in.
I wasn't around for PowerPC times, but from what I recollected the optimisation Apple put in it made it competitive vs other platforms despite slower hardware. I think this transition will work fine for all optimised apps, but everything not within that scope will suffer. Some people still seem to think that just because there are some benchmarks where iPad Pro runs circles around everything Intel has, it is a viable option for ALL computing from now on...
And no more support for the Intel Mac Pro.
Apple will provide one final OS the year (after) Intel Macs are discontinued entirely. Hardware and (spotty) security support will last three years after Intel Macs are discontinued entirely to cover AppleCare's three year warranty. I would advise against spending a lot of money on any Mac unless it can be amortized on taxes.
Don't expect much in the way of future driver support for Intel Macs.
As to Intel's "workable" chips.... Intel's current chips are hot garbage. They are only marginally faster and much hotter than 8th gen chips. OEMs have admitted they were taken by surprise by AMD's Renoir chips. AMD is the future of computing in the near-term.