Man, if that Photoshop/Lightroom demo was legit, I'm sold and will wait for these new Macs.
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Apple Transitioning Macs to Custom Chips With 'Incredible' Performance Starting Later This Year
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I have been photo editing on my iPad for a long time now, and for 3 years my iPad has been faster than my 2012 4 Core MBP. Much faster actually.
You just need to shove the silicon under an electronic microscope and you learn all the secrets. Apple might stop developing drivers if they feel that the demand isn't there, but if the demand is there, they'll continue to do so. I really don't see them spending any time and/or resources in blocking the bootloader either. That'd be a complete waste of resources as there will aways be someone who can open it.
Hehe, exactly! As I mentioned earlier, for years I've been deeply involved in coding alternate drivers and hacks for Boot Camp, such as Trackpad++, DimBar, and so on... And at all times it's been hard work from scratch, with absolute zero documentation from Apple on their hardware, and thus with many months of reverse engineering and other most stupid work. Oh, I shouldn't have said that 🤓 But at the end it has become possible to get multitouch working, or let's say manage touch bar from Windows. No, I'm not saying this will be done me personally, but there should remain some crazy geeks on this planet who could join forces and get it working. But, true, future Apple bootloader (if totally locked) can be the biggest issue and even showstopper. Let's wait a bit and see 'what lies waiting down the line'.
Benchmarks already exists for this chip in the Dev kit. It’s a modified iPad chip. The point is they aren’t announcing a new chip today, benchmarks would be irrelevant at this point
No, it was a log line from the safari browser hitting his debian webserver. The headers just haven't been changed yet in Safari
Wont buy a Mac that doesn't run Bootcamp and native Windows... Sorry...
They did it before, so why not do it again. Photoshop Gaussian Blur filters FTW!
As someone who invested heavily into TB3 Studio equipment over the last 2 years (Audio Interface, NVME RAID enclosure, 5K Monitor) I'm really concerned about Thunderbolt 3 Support. Yes, they're running Pro XDR Displays, but those are compatible with USB C as well..
In that scenario, an iPad would be more versatile, a tablet / 2-in-1 computer which would run software at the same performance. If that were true, then how would Apple differentiate between Macs and iPads? Or better yet, what would be the purpose of a Mac?
Because I want you to understand that this is a transition. When Apple does something, they do it 100%.
It seems naive to believe it inevitable intel will be "obliterated" Intel are in a slump and perhaps they won't recover - however there are many possible pathways to a return to dominance.
I'm new here but as an introduction, I'm not a fanboi of any computer system/platform. I used DOS and Windows mostly as a young person, but coveted Macintosh. I have a 2013 iMac i'm not going to replace with another desktop Mac because i'm bothered by the fact that the monitor is married to the box (i've owned about 6 or 7 OS X based macs in my life). I use Windows on an AMD Zen 2 at work. Have tried years of Linux distros and have all iphones in my family. I just find it all interesting.
I'm excited about the ARM desktop/laptop chips (for competition and innovation sake) and I have always been opposed to excessive backwards compatibility at the expense of security stability and efficiency.
Apple has the combination of fewer industries who use mac and a loyal user base and so it is much easier for Apple to force an end to certain existing software. What i am looking forward to is to see how this may hasten the demise of x86 processors on Windows and Linux - if the benefits of non-x86 become so significant and apparent that end users force developers to migrate software to non-x86 on Windows. This won't come for free, development costs for windows professional software across many industries, that was otherwise working well on x86, will have to be paid for somehow.
The move to low power chips will force software development and optimization to move to more multcore development - most software also seems to be behind modern hardware capabilities in this regard.
Exciting times.
I'm new here but as an introduction, I'm not a fanboi of any computer system/platform. I used DOS and Windows mostly as a young person, but coveted Macintosh. I have a 2013 iMac i'm not going to replace with another desktop Mac because i'm bothered by the fact that the monitor is married to the box (i've owned about 6 or 7 OS X based macs in my life). I use Windows on an AMD Zen 2 at work. Have tried years of Linux distros and have all iphones in my family. I just find it all interesting.
I'm excited about the ARM desktop/laptop chips (for competition and innovation sake) and I have always been opposed to excessive backwards compatibility at the expense of security stability and efficiency.
Apple has the combination of fewer industries who use mac and a loyal user base and so it is much easier for Apple to force an end to certain existing software. What i am looking forward to is to see how this may hasten the demise of x86 processors on Windows and Linux - if the benefits of non-x86 become so significant and apparent that end users force developers to migrate software to non-x86 on Windows. This won't come for free, development costs for windows professional software across many industries, that was otherwise working well on x86, will have to be paid for somehow.
The move to low power chips will force software development and optimization to move to more multcore development - most software also seems to be behind modern hardware capabilities in this regard.
Exciting times.
Does this make my PowerBook G4 17 inch obsolete?
You know, I now type this on my 2008 Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz PC with Windows 10 which I use every day. Yes, Windows 10 latest version officially supports Core2 Duo machines from second half of 2000s.
No, because moving TO Intel was a GOOD thing.
Moving FROM Intel is a BAD thing.
I don’t want Macs on non-PC architectures.
The fact all my Macs can run basically anything is why they’re the best computer I’ve ever owned.
I keep a PC just for games and VR. Everything else is either native MacOS or VMWare Windows virtualised on MacOS.
Well.. there is "support" as in keep ticking over and doing security patches.
Then there is "SUPPORT" as in the full weight of Apple OS feature upgrades and marketing effort.
Sure Intel macs will still work and be supported. But they won't be SUPPORTED.
Try running any PPC app today. Not going to happen. Now go to Windows 10 and try running a Win95 app made to run on a 486, chances are it will work.
Every app on the market today and the last 15 years will be completely inoperable in the next 2-4 years. Productivity, professional, games, everything.
Well we will find out in the next few weeks just how good they are when the developer units are put through their paces on a variety of workloads. I have a hunch we will see graphics performance somewhat above intel but significantly below the AMD and Nvidia chips for the time being especially with a new generation releasing late this year. I wonder if they’d still support a dedicated GPU in the higher end Macs? Or if there is some design where you can have a dedicated A14 graphics chip option. Interesting times indeed. I do think there will be more fight back though from intel’s design team than from the IBM transition. They have way more resources and motivation to actually compete, so this is likely great news for consumers no matter the platform they buy.
A quick note on updates, I suspect the update clock won’t start until the transition is complete, so 2 years till last unit plus a minimum of 2 plus another 2 for security updates would be my guess for the intel units, my prediction last security patch for intel Macs late 2027
A quick note on updates, I suspect the update clock won’t start until the transition is complete, so 2 years till last unit plus a minimum of 2 plus another 2 for security updates would be my guess for the intel units, my prediction last security patch for intel Macs late 2027
Windows ARM is useless as running x86 32 bit apps is slow and 64 bit app won't even run.
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Apple did *exactly* this in the PPC to Intel transition. This takes time. They will transition the product line over time. That means they will start with one or two machines on Apple Silicon, then 6-8 months later, during normal refresh cycle the next machine, and on and on.
I believe in 2006 the first Intel Mac was the consumer MacBook. For this transition I would guess:
Fall 2020: new MacBook 12" or MacBook Air, Mac mini / maybe iMac
Spring 2021: MacBook Pro
Fall 2021: iMac
Fall 2022: Mac Pro
I figured they didn’t show numbers because it was an A12Z chip and don’t want to preempt anything. They’ll probably have a separate event for the new Macs in October with the debuted of custom Apple silicon (a14X?) that will have that comparison be more impressive.
I hope the gains are significant because if not they shouldn’t bother.
This is the same thing as car enthusiasts finding out that Honda has a secret 2.0-liter supercharged engine ready to go in a Civic that can beat a Challenger Hellcat Redeye Widebody in the 1/4-mile. All the Mopar people be like, “I ain’t driving no 4-cylinder, no matter how good it is!”
To many people on these forums for whom their computer is an extension of their genitalia.
To many people on these forums for whom their computer is an extension of their genitalia.