Apple TV 4 reviews?

lucasrant

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Shouldn't we be seeing the review articles already?
Does anyone have an educated guess as to when we'll be seeing them?
I know polygon ran a great article and vebturebeat reviewed a unit with no app store, but I'm hoping to see more full fledged reviews aimed at the casual consumer
 

junglesnake

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We were told to not discuss the product until release day! Unfortunately for those who already ordered one!! Read between the lines!
 

JoeShades

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Do yourselves a favor when reviews start coming out, do not rely on reviews from people posting on here. It will be filled with trolls with only one goal in mind, and that is to bash the Apple tv. Get you reviews from legitimate news sites
 

aesc80

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Do yourselves a favor when reviews start coming out, do not rely on reviews from people posting on here. It will be filled with trolls with only one goal in mind, and that is to bash the Apple tv. Get you reviews from legitimate news sites
Or better yet, buy it. See if you like it. If not, simply return it. Apple's return policy is quite nice to that. Shouldn't take the user too long to identify if it really fits their needs.
 

junglesnake

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Pay no attention to that guy, in one post he says Roku 4 has a lot more channels to choose from. On Dev units there is no App store yet so of course Roku has more
The roku has 300,000 channels! I'm not a roku fan at all or I would not develop for Apple! Especially for 7 years now but this device is a nightmare to develop for! Size restrictions makes it almost impossible to develop anything but a simple app. Angry birds had to be rewritten to fit the size restrictions! That's as simple as they come. The lag is worse than the Apple 3! And do people actually think that Apple will allow Amazon prime or any other competitors in this App Store? Not happening, this is not a phone or tablet but a direct competitor to amazons business! People are being persuaded by a fancy interface and remote and not the unit or its capabilities itself! Kind of like the watch disaster. When it shows up Friday, just watch the the honest unbiased reviews. People should honestly wait until they can see exactly what they are getting. We had 15...developers working on this unit and everyone conseeded that the restrictions by Apple made it fairly unprofitable to develop for. So take that as you wish. That's my 2 cents from someone who has ACTUALLY HAD THE UNIT FOR A MONTH! Everyone who gets one I hope they enjoy it. It's not much better than the current generation unit to be honest.

I'm done in this thread but don't say I didn't say so. That's all I'm saying!
 
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The roku has 300,000 channels! I'm not a roku fan at all or I would not develop for Apple! Especially for 7 years now but this device is a nightmare to develop for! Size restrictions makes it almost impossible to develop anything but a simple app. Angry birds had to be rewritten to fit the size restrictions! That's as simple as they come. The lag is worse than the Apple 3! And do people actually think that Apple will allow Amazon prime or any other competitors in this App Store? Not happening, this is not a phone or tablet but a direct competitor to amazons business! People are being persuaded by a fancy interface and remote and not the unit or its capabilities itself! Kind of like the watch disaster. When it shows up Friday, just watch the the honest unbiased reviews. People should honestly wait until they can see exactly what they are getting. We had 15...developers working on this unit and everyone conseeded that the restrictions by Apple made it fairly unprofitable to develop for. So take that as you wish. That's my 2 cents from someone who has ACTUALLY HAD THE UNIT FOR A MONTH! Everyone who gets one I hope they enjoy it. It's not much better than the current generation unit to be honest.
Your "REVIEW" isn't worth one cent. You have not had a fully functioning device, THERE IS NO APP STORE YET!! this is one of the biggest new features. No why would Apple allow Amazon on Apple tv?, THEY ALLOW IT ON iPAD AND IPHONE {SNIP} and Allow Airplay to Apple tv so why not block Airplay by your dumb ass logic?
 
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Your "REVIEW" isn't worth one cent. You have not had a fully functioning device, THERE IS NO APP STORE YET!! this is none of the biggest new features. No why would Apple allow Amazon on Apple tv, THEY ALLOW IT ON iPAD AND IPHONE
True, there's been no way to fully evaluate the entire Apple Tv experience so far as a developer. As for being difficult to develop for, no, no, just no. It's no more difficult than developing for iOS, I've had a great time porting my game to it (which incidentally took about 2 hours to get the engine ported across and working,) it's awesome to see it on the big screen and I've yet to encounter any of this lag you mention. Maybe you have a defective unit.

The size restrictions mean nothing. We get 2.2GB of local storage which, yes some of can be overwritten, but only if the system needs to and if done properly anything more than that can be seamlessly downloaded long before the user needs it. In principal it's not much different than the asset streaming thats been done for many years for games on DVD or Blu-Ray, it's just over a network. It's not difficult, you just need to, well, think different.
 
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JoeShades

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The only annoying thing i expect is having alot of Apps and having to scroll through the interface to find them, but Roku is just the same and Amazon is worse. Not sure why there can't be folders
 

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Your "REVIEW" isn't worth one cent. You have not had a fully functioning device, THERE IS NO APP STORE YET!! this is one of the biggest new features. No why would Apple allow Amazon on Apple tv?, THEY ALLOW IT ON iPAD AND IPHONE {SNIP} and Allow Airplay to Apple tv so why not block Airplay by your dumb ass logic?
I didn't give a review of anything, just stated facts! And prime on a phone or tablet is a completely different circumstance to a television! My dumb ass logic will be laughing when you get your shined up Apple TV 3 Friday and you paid twice as much for it! Sure they will allow AirPlay but your missing the big picture!! How many APPLE devices does it take to make 1 app work?? Keep forking over that money! {SNIP} I'm just glad mine was free! Or partially since a few other developers kicked in. I'll stick with my current generation!
 
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One got posted by accident on cult of Mac or 9 to 5 Mac by accident and was taken down. Basically they liked it but said Siri didn't work like shown.

Only existed in my RSS reader, it looks like it has been taken down for good.

It was called something like Apple TV: the good the bad the ugly
 

junglesnake

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They will be up tomorrow. And the App Store HAS gone live twice for testing purposes and it's really like the watch store at the moment. Not a lot of useful apps there! My biggest complaint with the device is not internal hard drive for media storing. Especially for the money. It's already tall enough that they could have thrown a time capsule hd in there and it would have been a much better device for everything. Including developing.
 

moetownslick

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Keep laughing smart guy. You'll see.
i'm just curious...what, exactly, will we see? that your opinions on the apple tv are correct and that we will be disappointed?

what if it's a huge hit? are you gonna post in here saying you were wrong? i mean, you can pawn it off as "just your opinion" but you certainly seem to be confident that there won't be much to like about it.
 

junglesnake

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Yet you keep talking in this thread
I'm trying to be honest about the situation and you throw stones! I'm not in this for the device, I do it to make money on the side which is very hard to do with this device. I'm being as honest as possible about the unit and its capabilities. A lot of money for not much more than the previous model. A new remote and an App Store that from what I HAVE SEEN is extremely limited at the time. Everyone enjoy your new device, honestly.
 

junglesnake

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i'm just curious...what, exactly, will we see? that your opinions on the apple tv are correct and that we will be disappointed?

what if it's a huge hit? are you gonna post in here saying you were wrong? i mean, you can pawn it off as "just your opinion" but you certainly seem to be confident that there won't be much to like about it.
Huge hit? Not going to happen or it wouldn't be available for next day shipping still. It's not that kind of product. The iPad pro? Sure it will be but not this. It will flop hsrder than the watch did. The stock market rarely lies!
 

Taco1933

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We'll see. I've
Huge hit? Not going to happen or it wouldn't be available for next day shipping still. It's not that kind of product. The iPad pro? Sure it will be but not this. It will flop hsrder than the watch did. The stock market rarely lies!
Apple isn't too far off of their all time high.

But Apple TV has never been a big revenue generator for them and nobody will be surprised when this new one isn't either. In the end, if it's better than my gen 2, I'll be happy. It isn't like $150 is breaking the bank. I spend more on iPhones and iPads and do it more often.
 

TrueBlou

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I'm trying to be honest about the situation and you throw stones! I'm not in this for the device, I do it to make money on the side which is very hard to do with this device. I'm being as honest as possible about the unit and its capabilities. A lot of money for not much more than the previous model. A new remote and an App Store that from what I HAVE SEEN is extremely limited at the time. Everyone enjoy your new device, honestly.

The AppStore is going to be limited to a degree to begin with. Did the Playststion 4 launch with 600?games? Did the Xbox one? Did any system, ever? (Yes 600 is a random number)

That aside, the full and complete AppStore has thus far not been live at any point, for any reason. There have been apps getting added to it every single day.

You might be in it for the money, I'm in it for the love of doing it and if you honestly believe that there's not much more to the new ATV than the old one. Then you've not even begun to scratch its surface. It can do pretty damn good things.

Oh, and that remote. And clearly this is just my opinion, that remote is hands down one of the best remotes of the many, many remotes I've owned. I even prefer it to my current Harmony. Swiping through everything with speed and precision is so much nicer than using buttons to navigate. But that's just me.
 
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junglesnake

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The AppStore is going to be limited to a degree to begin with. Did the Playststion 4 launch with 600?games? Did the Xbox one? Did any system, ever? (Yes 600 is a random number)

That aside, the full and complete AppStore has thus far not been live at any point, for any reason. There have been apps getting added to it every single day.

You might be in it for the money, I'm in it for the love of doing it and if you honestly believe that there's not much more to the new ATV than the old one. Then you've not even begun to scratch its surface. It can do pretty damn good things.

Oh, and that remote. And clearly this is just my opinion, that remote is hands down one of the best remotes of the many, many remotes I've owned. I even prefer it to my current Harmony. Swiping through everything with speed and precision is so much nicer than usin buttons to navigate. But that's just me.
I'll give you that. The best part is the remote. But 80 bucks? Really? More than a ps4 or Xbox remote? But it's a nice upgrade to the last two!
 

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