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honestly, I almost never use the remote. My iphone is a much better remote when I need it.
 
There is space on the top left for a TV input button. They put the TV volume button but forgot about the TV input button.

I'm one of those who are very dissappointed with the update. Very little has been done to the Apple TV since the Apple TV4 was released 5 years ago.

Totally agree. The input button is missing to switch to other devices.
Turning tv off was already possible with the previous versions (given that your TV supported the right protocol).

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So still not the only remote to use with your TV.
 
Can't the circular motion gesture be added to the old remote?
Fairly sure they will never do that to boost sales of this new one, but totally possible.
 
I’m very disappointed with this update. There’s no reason to upgrade from a previous version. Especially at those insane prices. I’m still hoping for a new version with more exciting features that will revive the App Store and the smart home space.

serious question. What major upgrade do you want from a streaming device? Like you said, the price already makes it a hard buy for how you use the appletv. Unless you feel the interface is worth nearly double the price of the competition, I don't see why people pick this over the alternatives.

You could outfit your entire house with Roku' Ultra's (currently $70) for a little over the cost of a single ATV.
 
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serious question. What major upgrade do you want from a streaming device? Like you said, the price already makes it a hard buy for how you use the appletv. Unless you feel the interface is worth nearly double the price of the competition, I don't see why people pick this over the alternatives.

You could outfit your entire house with Roku' Ultra's (currently $70) for a little over the cost of a single ATV.
Sadly, you are correct. I cancelled my new 4K Apple TV order because I was like, “Do I really need this?” What am I gaining over a Roku Ultra (Dolby Vision) ? Since I don’t play to play games on the Apple TV or plan to use Fitness+, the answer is “not much.”
 
Totally agree. The input button is missing to switch to other devices.
Turning tv off was already possible with the previous versions (given that your TV supported the right protocol).

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So still not the only remote to use with your TV.
Apple doesn’t provide an “input” button because they want you to keep Apple TV selected ALL OF THE TIME. 🤔
 
serious question. What major upgrade do you want from a streaming device? Like you said, the price already makes it a hard buy for how you use the appletv. Unless you feel the interface is worth nearly double the price of the competition, I don't see why people pick this over the alternatives.

You could outfit your entire house with Roku' Ultra's (currently $70) for a little over the cost of a single ATV.

For me, I see it as more than just a streaming device. I was hoping to see serious performance gains that would make the Apple TV a serious potential gaming platform. Since the Apple TV is not a volume seller for them (I assume), it wouldn't eat into their chip supply too terribly. An Apple TV packing an M1 would have been sweet! But of course, it would run into the problem of having to get devs on board and actually develop games for it.

I know not all people want their Apple TV to do that, so maybe Apple would end up creating a separate, high performance Apple TV like this. An Apple TV Pro, perhaps?? 😜
 
For me, I see it as more than just a streaming device. I was hoping to see serious performance gains that would make the Apple TV a serious potential gaming platform. Since the Apple TV is not a volume seller for them (I assume), it wouldn't eat into their chip supply too terribly. An Apple TV packing an M1 would have been sweet! But of course, it would run into the problem of having to get devs on board and actually develop games for it.

I know not all people want their Apple TV to do that, so maybe Apple would end up creating a separate, high performance Apple TV like this. An Apple TV Pro, perhaps?? 😜

I can could get behind that, but Apple Arcade is basically mobile games. I don't see that changing anytime soon, it's just not the market they are capturing with the ATV. Obviously they are selling these quite well, I just haven't really seen a need for this over the alternatives unless the interface is seriously that important.
 
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No, it absolutely doesn’t, it works like an Up button (in the menu-hierarchy sense, the opposite of drilling-down (there has to be a better name for this function but I don’t know what - maybe “out”?)).

Back means go to where you were last. Up/out/whatever means go to the parent of where you are now.

If you just watched episodes 5, 6 and 7 of For All Mankind Season 2 and you press Back twice you’d go back to episode 6, then back to episode 5. If instead you pressed Up twice you’d go up a level to Season 2, then up again to For All Mankind. The latter is useful, the former is not.
Ok, I meant the same thing as you, but we just had different words for it.
 
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Strange. This morning the order status changed to shipped and the tracking page says it arrives tomorrow (Friday) by end of day. Maybe there was a snag in updating the status to shipped?
 
Southern California, arrives by 1900 🥳 Friday. Ordered within the first 3 minutes…it’s coming from a known pre-stocked/staging area: Ontario, Ca. I bet they have been there for 2+ years….sitting
 
No change for me since this morning. Been preparing to ship all day. And nothing in UPS. I tried my phone number. And the order number minus the last 2. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
serious question. What major upgrade do you want from a streaming device? Like you said, the price already makes it a hard buy for how you use the appletv. Unless you feel the interface is worth nearly double the price of the competition, I don't see why people pick this over the alternatives.

You could outfit your entire house with Roku' Ultra's (currently $70) for a little over the cost of a single ATV.

Are you serious? what major upgrades would I like? At that price I want it to get me popcorn while watching a movie I’m inventing in my brain as I watch it.

Or on a more serious note: I don’t want to hunt for apps when watching TV (the TV app is an empty shell in my country), I want to use Siri on my Siri remote (yes, still MIA over here), I want real games and an App Store that is not a ghost town, I want a dashboard that gives useful info about my day, I want a real smart home experience (not this watered down Homekit stuff in the sidebar), I want it to automatically switch over to my account by knowing I’m there and have every app tied to user accounts (not just my TV and Music app), I want the Top Shelf to stop showing Billie Eilish, maybe I want it integrated in a soundbar, have sensors in it so it automatically dims the room or increases brightness based on the ambient situation, a camera to FaceTime with the family on the big screen and new API’s that will trigger devs to work on innovative apps.

And I don’t want to feel the need to throw my remote out the window every time I use it. But I guess that last one is finally fixed now.
 
Are you serious? what major upgrades would I like? At that price I want it to get me popcorn while watching a movie I’m inventing in my brain as I watch it.

Or on a more serious note: I don’t want to hunt for apps when watching TV (the TV app is an empty shell in my country), I want to use Siri on my Siri remote (yes, still MIA over here), I want real games and an App Store that is not a ghost town, I want a dashboard that gives useful info about my day, I want a real smart home experience (not this watered down Homekit stuff in the sidebar), I want it to automatically switch over to my account by knowing I’m there and have every app tied to user accounts (not just my TV and Music app), I want the Top Shelf to stop showing Billie Eilish, maybe I want it integrated in a soundbar, have sensors in it so it automatically dims the room or increases brightness based on the ambient situation, a camera to FaceTime with the family on the big screen and new API’s that will trigger devs to work on innovative apps.

And I don’t want to feel the need to throw my remote out the window every time I use it. But I guess that last one is finally fixed now.

I think you misread my comment. I was saying, why pay this price for the ATV that is 99% the same as alternatives that are half the cost. Your entire post was fuel for my post.
 
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