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I can't wait until the AppleTV comes with its own Apple store...imagine playing iOS games on your TV without an iDevice! :O

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This is not a gaming controller.

Edit: Hadn't heard of 3rd party controller support, but wouldn't  TV be too poorly specced to act as a standalone games console? I thought that iOS devices doing all the work was a pretty elegant solution.
 
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For one, Vonage includes a lot of international calling in even their basic plan.

I don't use Vonage, but I do use another voip provider, rather than pay TW because it's still cheaper, even when bundled.

Exactly.

I tried VoIP systems, went back to landlines as they've become cheaper and more reliable.

Mobile for everything else.
 
For one, Vonage includes a lot of international calling in even their basic plan.

I don't use Vonage, but I do use another voip provider, rather than pay TW because it's still cheaper, even when bundled.

where?
website says $24.99 per month for US and canada. International is extra

its about the same as time warner cable phone
 
Amazon prime, you're kidding right? Next maybe the Roku will stream video from iTunes

It's not that unlikely. Amazon has shown they will support Apple devices with their iOS apps and apple has showed willingness to put a rivals content on Apple TV with vevo.
 
Vevo needs confirmation of location?

damn VEVO not working over here, all i get is a "connecting ..." screen

I tried the same thing, also stayed on connecting. I use a UK iTunes account in Germany.

Tried the Settings menu (in app, think it was called that) and it asked me to go to a computer or iDevice and enter the Key code it gave me on website. Internet wouldn't connect as my IP is Germany...
 
I'm not seeing any of these new channels. I don't even see Crunchyroll. Should they just appear or do I have to apply the latest update? If the later, then I'm out of luck, I guess, since I'm running a jailbroken ATV2.
 
Not in Canada

So I guess we up here in Canada only get Vevo (Already removed it from my screen). Oh well, no big surprise here.:(
I would of at least liked the weather channel for frak sakes!!.
I agree with others on the app store for appletv. Be nice to choose the apps you want and turf what you don't. I'm guessing it's coming though. Some year!
Seriously, I only have 4 apps currently on my screen. And only use 2 of those.
:rolleyes:
 
I'm really not a fan of this layout with the increasing amount of icons. It just looks busy and unorganized, plus the Disney icons are so ugly. A folder system would be SO welcome.
 
will never happen
TV is like insurance. lots of people pay and you only use a little at a time.

Well, a growing number of people are skipping it altogether. TV will change, or it will die.

Note that a viable change from the consumer's perspective is going back to the 1990's level of pricing with mid-tier cable costing an average of $30/month and barebones service at $3-6. Not gonna happen from the providers' perspective, though, which is why they are going to simply die.

Unlike insurance, cable isn't there "in case you need it". It is a completely voluntary source of entertainment. The more apt analogy would be all-you-can-eat buffets: if that were the only way to eat, the buffet could set a high price and serve absolute schlock, but when someone opens a fine dining restaurant down the street one way and a McDonalds up the street the other way, the buffet will start losing customers. Consumers are almost always best served by an a la carte menu approach. Some economies of scale can be achieved by limiting the menu to pre-set configurations, and if those savings are passed along to the consumer that is a win for some consumers who would have chosen one of the pre-set configurations anyway.

However, in a sparsely-consumed market where each individual consumer only wants to receive small pieces of the overall smorgasbord, consumers are simply never served well with all-you-can-eat buffets. The cable industry is an artifact of the specific mechanics of delivering television over copper wires to a house and managing what channels a particular household could see using 1980s-era set-top box technology. The problem is that the industry matured with that consumer-unfriendly model, and has calcified to it. Now, it is an anachronism. If the industry does not adapt to the new reality and adopt a more consumer-friendly approach, it will simply die.
 
I know they are aware of this– but the interface needs sub-division if it's going to succeed. This many providers and it's becoming too unwieldily to find what you want. Persistent functional verticals like radio are not segregated from video channels, and there is no method, aside from search, to discover content.
 
I tried the same thing, also stayed on connecting. I use a UK iTunes account in Germany.

Tried the Settings menu (in app, think it was called that) and it asked me to go to a computer or iDevice and enter the Key code it gave me on website. Internet wouldn't connect as my IP is Germany...

as usual the damn gema is to blame
 
Tim Cook needs to be fired

Not just for letting Roku beat them to it, but because of the big **** up that he allowed to happen today. Moron let Samsung beat them to the market with a SmartWatch.

He's got to go for his incompetence. He is killing Apple!
Hey, genius:

Microsoft beat the iPad to the tablet market by about nine years. Should Steve Jobs have been fired? Who cares about the Samsung SmartWatch -- since it isn't (yet) a copy of an Apple product, nobody will buy it.
 
Well, a growing number of people are skipping it altogether. TV will change, or it will die.

I completely agree. The current paradigm is status quo– it does not address how users want to consume content. However, distributors and providers have a headlock on the advertising and distribution model. If you make things more efficient and appealing to the end user, they think they will lose revenue. In fact, the only reason why TV advertising revenue is so high, is due to a cabal of companies that agree to blind-auction style bidding. In no other advertising industry is that practiced, and it's due to the fact that television advertising can't really compete with other kinds of advertising based solely on it's merit. With one exception– live events like sports. They justifiably make a ton of money and people typically view the commercials. Notice the rash of live cable sports channels? It's only going to get worse.

I'd argue that a-la-carte with a basic monthly fee would probably net providers more money in the long run. After all, it works in every other industry it's practiced. The problem is, of course, the advertising and distribution models rely on middlemen that will be obsolete.

The other manifestation which annoys everyone is the app-per-channel paradigm. It's like chicken pox spreading to every content provider. Users HATE this. Nobody gives a cr@p about channels anymore. It's a 60+ year old concept for a bygone era, but because of the advertising model and the desire for providers to get a larger slice of the pie, it will take a paradigm shift to ever make it happen.
 
However, in a sparsely-consumed market where each individual consumer only wants to receive small pieces of the overall smorgasbord, consumers are simply never served well with all-you-can-eat buffets. The cable industry is an artifact of the specific mechanics of delivering television over copper wires to a house and managing what channels a particular household could see using 1980s-era set-top box technology. The problem is that the industry matured with that consumer-unfriendly model, and has calcified to it. Now, it is an anachronism. If the industry does not adapt to the new reality and adopt a more consumer-friendly approach, it will simply die.

Agreed. I don't need TV, but I need the Internet. That being said, as others have pointed out, what's to stop cable providers from simply jacking the rates for Internet? If we succeed in turning Cable into just another utility and provider of the dumb pipes that it should be, what's to stop them from charging well over $100 a month for Internet?

I hope the answer isn't regulation. But, what can disrupt and either replace or take over the actual ownership of the pipes?
 
plex

Is anyone else not able to use the plex exploit anymore after this push? It stopped working for me after they showed up.
 
Agreed. I don't need TV, but I need the Internet. That being said, as others have pointed out, what's to stop cable providers from simply jacking the rates for Internet? If we succeed in turning Cable into just another utility and provider of the dump pipes that it should be, what's to stop them from charging well over $100 a month for Internet?

It reminds me of how cell phone plans have changed over the years.

They used to be based on how many minutes you wanted. Then you could add a certain number of text messages. And then you'd add a data plan (unlimited) for a flat fee.

Nowadays... voice minutes and text messages are so devalued that you just get unlimited.

Data has now become what plans are based on.
 
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