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Apple TV As a Gaming Console?
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Sayer
macrumors 6502a
No no no no.
It sounds more like SPORTS programming support (standings, games played).
The controller part refers to a programming concept used in Objective-C and Cocoa/iOS frameworks. Not video game controller.
Thunder sounds like a codename for some segment of sports programming, MLB maybe? NFL? Season pass?
It sounds more like SPORTS programming support (standings, games played).
The controller part refers to a programming concept used in Objective-C and Cocoa/iOS frameworks. Not video game controller.
Thunder sounds like a codename for some segment of sports programming, MLB maybe? NFL? Season pass?
No...streaming makes sense for something you're probably just going to watch once (TV/movies), but it's mostly nonsensical for gaming, with a long list of disadvantages compared to local content and very few advantages.
Far more logical, indeed.
--Eric
I think this is the most likely explanation. Controllers and ViewControllers are all over the place in the SDK.
About time!
Nice. Saw that one coming 2 years ago. 😉
http://argentumstudio.com/2009/03/apple-tv-the-next-big-multiplayer-gaming-system/
Nice. Saw that one coming 2 years ago. 😉
http://argentumstudio.com/2009/03/apple-tv-the-next-big-multiplayer-gaming-system/
The keywords in the code from this rumor made me chuckle. Considering I live in Flagstaff, AZ and Sedona is only a 20 minute drive.
Long live the Pippin!
Long live the Pippin!
Yup. I think we both should see a share pf the profits and be credited when it arrives. To make it work properly though Apple needs a specific wireless controller for it to work as a games platform. Playing the little games on the iphone iPad etc might work for a few games such as Angry birds but the money is at the FPS end and the efforts on the iPhone iPad just dont work.
Dont know about the whole streaming games though. there is more than enough stirage on the ATV to allow the download and storage of the game. It can then be stored in the cloud for future use. Apple needs to get a rocket up their ass and seriously get this out to the consumer.
dongmin
macrumors 68000
There are a plenty of games that don't require button-mashing and could work very well in a TV-iGadget combo setup:
Driving games (using the iphone as a steering wheel)
Golf (think: flicking)
Scrabble
Monopoly
Pictionary
Basically, any kind of board game and a lot of the "casual games" that offers multi-player gameplay would do very well with the TV as the main display.
This wouldnt be able to compete with the likes of the Xbox or PS3...maybe the Wii though due to their weird little ecosystem they live in.
Xbox 360 Specs
3.2Ghz Tri-Core (3 cores) PowerPC CPU
512MB DDR3 RAM (700mhz)
ATI Xenos Graphics Card
PS3 Specs
3.2Ghz CBE CPU
256MB System RAM (+ 256MB for Gfx)
NVIDIA GFX Card
AppleTV
Apple A4 CPU (better known as the ARM Cortex-A8 with a PowerVR GPU) @ 1Ghz
RAM: 256MB
Graphics: None - uses integrated PowerVR inside the A4.
See the problem? The AppleTV is MAJORLY flawed for serious gaming...cant really see Call of Duty running well on a 1Ghz CPU with no RAM.
Sorry, but its not going to work without a serious hardware revision in the next update, which probably wont happen as it would bump the price up by at least $50.
Xbox 360 Specs
3.2Ghz Tri-Core (3 cores) PowerPC CPU
512MB DDR3 RAM (700mhz)
ATI Xenos Graphics Card
PS3 Specs
3.2Ghz CBE CPU
256MB System RAM (+ 256MB for Gfx)
NVIDIA GFX Card
AppleTV
Apple A4 CPU (better known as the ARM Cortex-A8 with a PowerVR GPU) @ 1Ghz
RAM: 256MB
Graphics: None - uses integrated PowerVR inside the A4.
See the problem? The AppleTV is MAJORLY flawed for serious gaming...cant really see Call of Duty running well on a 1Ghz CPU with no RAM.
Sorry, but its not going to work without a serious hardware revision in the next update, which probably wont happen as it would bump the price up by at least $50.
Carniphage
macrumors 68000
The two consoles you quote are geared up for serious (a.k.a. hardcore) gaming.
The problem is that hardcore gaming as a business is a flop. Sony's game division have haemorrhaged cash since the PS3 launch while MS have struggled.
So please don't get hung-up on Apple trying to emulate a business model that is broken.
In terms of power the Apple TV is more than a match for the Nintendo Wii - which *is* a profitable platform.
C.
rdlink
macrumors 68040
I think the problem with Netflix on the Apple TV is the result of inadequate buffering between the Netflix service and the Apple TV. Apple (or Netflix or the content owners themselves) may not allow the content to be buffered to the Apple TV's flash memory. Thus, no matter how fast your internet connection if you suffer even a short disruption in the content delivery then the stream may need to pause because the buffer in DRAM is so small.
Thus, you might measure an instantaneous 10Mbps download rate from your ISP and you may think that all is well with your network and your ISP. But, if the rate slows down significantly for a minute or more then you may get a pause in the playback.
As an example, it's possible that someone with a rock-solid 2.5Mbps DSL connection may have less problems with Netflix than another user who has an advertised 10Mbps cable connection that has periodic slow downs to rates at or below 1Mbps (even for only a minute or two).
Of course, this doesn't fully explain why some PS3 users have reported better Netflix performance under the same network conditions as with the Apple TV. But it could still have something to do with the buffering of the content, perhaps on the PS3 the stream is being buffered to the PS3's HD.
rdlink
macrumors 68040
See Chopper 2 as a game that transfers nicely between multiple platforms, and adapts very nicely to the different ways of controlling it. Also, it does a great job of marrying the iPhone/iPad/Mac in a controller combination.
Another thing to keep in mind is what the 4.3 version of Airplay will do for iOS game publishers. Think about being able to stream the video and audio of the game you're playing on your iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad to your television, and maintain control on your handheld device...
rdlink
macrumors 68040
Or you can wait about three weeks and play it on your iPad with Airplay, and not have a 20 foot HDMI cable tethering your tablet to your television....
An Apple gaming console that competes against the xbox360/ps3 is my dream 😱
i know its the apple tv, but they could give it a huge update to rival that of the ps3. i mean im a ps3 gamer, and well a ps3 is for games but lately ive noticed all these updates for LOVEFILM (UK film rental thing or something, with streaming to ps3) and catch up services for BBC/STV/Channel 4. So if the ps3 as a game console is gaining tv/film updates. im sure the apple tv as a tv device can gain gaming specs?
id love an "iConsole" 😀 i mean, if theres games like...need for speed, fifa, call of duty, battlefield already on the app store, why wouldn't it be possible?
i know its the apple tv, but they could give it a huge update to rival that of the ps3. i mean im a ps3 gamer, and well a ps3 is for games but lately ive noticed all these updates for LOVEFILM (UK film rental thing or something, with streaming to ps3) and catch up services for BBC/STV/Channel 4. So if the ps3 as a game console is gaining tv/film updates. im sure the apple tv as a tv device can gain gaming specs?
id love an "iConsole" 😀 i mean, if theres games like...need for speed, fifa, call of duty, battlefield already on the app store, why wouldn't it be possible?
PlipPlop
macrumors 6502a
Oh yes hardcore gaming is a flop
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2010/dec/22/call-of-duty-billion-dollar-sales
🙄
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/28220/Xbox_360_Division_Pushes_165_Million_Profit_For_MS_Q3.php
I think April was before the xbox launch and of course Halo Reach.
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wasn't there a rumor awhile back before the new Apple TV launched that they were working on an AppleTV that was like an iphone but without a display? I think there were even pictures of it and perhaps that was the appletv controller since it obviously wasn't the appletv
wasn't there a rumor awhile back before the new Apple TV launched that they were working on an AppleTV that was like an iphone but without a display? I think there were even pictures of it and perhaps that was the appletv controller since it obviously wasn't the appletv