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You don't know that he's not a fan of Apple's products. At most you believe he is critical of Apple and their products.

Find me one post of his that was positive about Apple. Most people who are fans of Apple products have nice things to say about the company at least once in a while.
 
Do you honestly think anyone on Wall Street is going to be impressed with that $1 billion business? C'mon. That would move Apple's overall needle about .01%. As soon as they announced that lackluster figure, Apple share price immediately went limp. I doubt even a $10 billion business would move Apple's share price up appreciably. We not talking about an unlimited growth potential company like Google. Every venture that Apple will ever do in the future has already been priced into the stock. I'm not going to buy an AppleTV until it has approved PLEX support although I might consider it if it plays off-the-shelf iOS games. So far, everything Apple does is only succeeding in driving the share price down further. And things never go well for Apple stock when Tim Cook starts with his "Apple will soon yada yada..." speech. :mad:

Why on earth do people say such moronic things?

$1 Billion is 0.01% of 10 TRILLION dollars. With annual revenues at around 150 Billion, you are off by almost two orders of magnitude.

… and when you say $10 Billion would also be tiny, that's not so much less than iPad revenues in 2012. Are you saying the iPad hasn't contributed to the share price?

Stocks are down today: this news has nothing to do with the share price today.

Oh yeah… and the Easter Bunny isn't real.

Anything else I can help you get a clue about?
 
Why on earth do people say such moronic things?

$1 Billion is 0.01% of 10 TRILLION dollars. With annual revenues at around 150 Billion, you are off by almost two orders of magnitude.

… and when you say $10 Billion would also be tiny, that's not so much less than iPad revenues in 2012. Are you saying the iPad hasn't contributed to the share price?

Stocks are down today: this news has nothing to do with the share price today.

Oh yeah… and the Easter Bunny isn't real.

Anything else I can help you get a clue about?

Geez. I really hope you're wrong about the Easter Bunny :p
 
Chromecast sells for $35 and does everything and is totally open, or so Google says. You can almost buy three Chromecasts for the price of one AppleTV. Apple continues to let Google get into its kitchen and that's why Google shares are sitting at $1200 and Apple's shares are continuously heading towards $500. Tim Cook just doesn't understand the gravity of the situation concerning Apple's shareholder value. All the companies Apple could have acquired for almost nothing last year, have practically doubled in value while Apple has simply faded. That's just Apple's horrible management strategy of being penny wise and pounds foolish.

management decisions based on shareholder value? how absurd. I suggest you read this:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/28/maximizing-shareholder-value-the-dumbest-idea-in-the-world/

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I mean Apple TV was great, but its fallen behind the times compared to their competition. I have said over and over again that other Netflix clients are far superior to what Apple offers, and I have seen much better presentations for how to browse and access content in general on other boxes, including the new generation of game consoles.

Apple has to move beyond the "grid of icons and endless lists" GUI design for Apple TV and come out with something unique and inspiring.

If all the new Apple TV is going to be is just an enhanced vehicle for dumping more garbage content in a grid and calling it a day, I will not be buying any new Apple TV boxes.

icons and lists -- guess what you've just described every single set top box. it works. I've never struggled with it.
 
I think the REAL game changer would be a new interface using apple's matcha purchase. One seamless interface that brings the content from your netflix, hulu plus, amazon, and other subscription services together with content from apple, free streaming sources like PBS and Smithsonian, etc will be a big winner IMO. That, and some iTunes original content of mind blowing quality like house of cards, and apple will basically be saying "climb in or eat my dust" to the entrenched content provider dinosaurs. I still maintain that apple doesn't need the content providers aboard to start shifting the industry - that just need to make it clear how obsolete they are.

Without the "content provider dinosaurs" there would be no appreciable amount of content for Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Apple, etc., to build streaming services out of. When it comes to TV most often the content provider is also the content producer (the entity that foots the bill to make the content). HBO pays the production costs of Game of Thrones specifically so people will pay for cable plus HBO. FOX pays the production costs to make The Following so people will tune into FOX Monday nights at 9/8 central.

Content creators (people that come up with the ideas and then execute them once they get funding) shop around ideas/concepts to TV networks, not finished products. That's what pilot season is all about. You make one episode as a proof of concept, show it around to different networks and hope that someone likes the idea enough to foot the bill for a whole seasons worth of episodes.

As another poster mentioned, TV revenue is all tied to ad sales which is tied to viewership. It's completely opposite from the business model the music industry uses and a much more complicated one.
 
Wasn't it Steve who use to call Apple TV a hobby?

It's only "reasonably" profitable by Apple standards. They should sell it to Facebook for $100 billion... I mean its got a real cash PROFIT MARGIN... Nothing else on Internet land does THAT!!!
 
I think the REAL game changer would be a new interface using apple's matcha purchase. One seamless interface that brings the content from your netflix, hulu plus, amazon, and other subscription services together with content from apple, free streaming sources like PBS and Smithsonian, etc will be a big winner IMO. That, and some iTunes original content of mind blowing quality like house of cards, and apple will basically be saying "climb in or eat my dust" to the entrenched content provider dinosaurs. I still maintain that apple doesn't need the content providers aboard to start shifting the industry - that just need to make it clear how obsolete they are.

A nice bonus would be a next-day streaming service like hulu from apple themselves. Roll it in with iTunes Match and make it $99 a year and we've got a winner.

Finally, build an OTA antenna into the unit and help us utilize the free channels we already have.

you will never get next day streaming of every show for $99 per year
comcast and most TV providers pay the content companies $35 per account per month for access to content
 
More local content would be great

I love my Apple TV. But I would like to see (have acces to) more local content. For instance "Tou.tv" in Canada.
My Samsung so-called SMART TV gives me access to it, albeit its slow and it looses the Internet or router connection too often; then you need to restart the program from the beginning and you cannot "fast forward". As if there is no memory or not nearly enough...
The Apple TV doesn't have that problem but has very limited (if any) local content in Canada.
Hopefully Apple adds local content in its next upgrade.
 
Yes. The next big product is always 6 months away...They should have released a game console enabled Apple TV long time ago. Mr. Cook keeps telling us to wait. :mad:
 
Apple TV.

The least interesting Apple product. A set top box that allows a person to consume, to rent movies and TV shows from a very restricted list.

Low bitrate, low resolution. High prices. Eats away the bandwidth cap.

IF that all sounds appealing, there are many devices that do the same and are in fact a lot better. Some are a lot worse, but don't think this is the king of the hill.

Not by a long shot. :p:eek:
 
In my house Apple provides 100% of our TV viewing content.

That is no exaggeration. No antenna or cable or Dish in our place.

AND IT'S GREAT!!!!!

Proud cord cutter since 2010.

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Apple TV is a stand alone device...

Chromecast is a gimped app specific version of Airplay for people that don't know better

Please, tell me more. I own 3 of them and think they are great and getting better with more apps using it. Plus I can use it with every piece of tech I own: GS3, iPad, MBA, HP laptop, gaming rig, etc. But I am always up for learning something new. What don't I know.:confused:
 
they're gearing up for something huge... it's gonna be a great year once they get the ball rolling on the first release.


Let's SEe How Wall StrEet ( Controlled by DEMON which Lives in EUROPE ) Reacts.
If NEGATIVE as Usual, SECOND FRENCH REVOLUTION is Needed in The U.S.
Let " Wall Street " Be " BASTILLE PRISON in America " !
 
You realize a Chromecast requires a compatible device to operate, right? vs :apple:TV is able to function independently? The latter means I don't have to give the kids a tablet/phone to watch something, that I can start something with (or even without!) my phone/tablet and then leave the house with it without interrupting others watching (or having to find & transition to another device), I don't have to take a device from a kid playing a game on it just so I can watch something, etc. Yes, the former can work around these (to some degree, maybe), but considering I'm just getting one of them to plug into a thousand dollars' or so worth of A/V equipment, $99 isn't going to induce heartburn.

Um.... Once you cast the content to the Chromecast you no longer need whatever device you used anymore. So therefore, you cast then you can leave while the content still plays. You do not have to have the device connected at all. In addition, you can use any device you want to including all Apple products with Chromecast. On top of that there really is no advantage of ATV over the Chromecast now. Since you can stream anything you want including local content.
 
That's really good! Makes me feel like a slackard though. I've got a few hobbies and I'm lucky if I make a million or two from all of them combined!
 
Chromecast sells for $35 and does everything and is totally open, or so Google says. You can almost buy three Chromecasts for the price of one AppleTV. Apple continues to let Google get into its kitchen and that's why Google shares are sitting at $1200 and Apple's shares are continuously heading towards $500. Tim Cook just doesn't understand the gravity of the situation concerning Apple's shareholder value. All the companies Apple could have acquired for almost nothing last year, have practically doubled in value while Apple has simply faded. That's just Apple's horrible management strategy of being penny wise and pounds foolish.
Thank you, yet the apple drones will continue their "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" routine with respect to apple. Sooo many missed opportunities.
 
Apple TV is still junk compared to its competitors. Only good for airplay. Other than that I always use my Roku. My built in Webapps on my TV are better than ATV.

Roku 3 -

Faster interface
More content (by faaarrrrr)
Nicer interface.
Easier to use interface
Cumulative search feature works great.
Did I mention they have channels?

Apple TV-

Great if you buy into iTunes
Airplay

But...Airplay is cool as ...
 
Do you realize that Chromecast works by a host device being the remote control and that once a video is sent to the screen, the device is no longer needed and you can leave with it?

no actually that is not true, if you want to pause rewind or any other function you would do with a remote ,well you need the device. chromecast is airplay that is all it is
 
Of course it's bad news. The analysts were expecting at least twice that amount from AppleTV. For $99, Wall Street expects at least one AppleTV in every house in the U.S. Apple didn't even get close. You're really not paying close attention to street expectations of Apple. Besides, AppleTV is not innovative enough. :rolleyes:

EVERYONE, Remember it !
HERE The Lackay of VILLAIN is.
 
Nobody on Wall Street cares about this incarnation of AppleTV. It's profit margins are probably close to zero. The real news here is that there is no news about new AppleTV which has been factored into the current APPL price.

So this doesn't show how users are clamoring for an Apple TV (good thing). I'm sorry but then how has google stock gone up if they have been doing nothing with their projects? How about the profit margins on their Nexus and Motos last year?

After The " INCIDENT AT CHINA " Google Has Been Controlled by DEMON which Lives in EUROPE.
 
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