I dumped Netflix a couple of months ago. Haven’t missed it at all. It’s 95% tripe. I will intermittently signup again for a month at a time to catchup on the few excellent shows that are on there, but definitely no more having it “just in case” something is worth watching among the never-ending thumbnail surfing.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple TV+ Competitor Disney+ Already Has Over 28 Million Subscribers
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I dumped Netflix a couple of months ago. Haven’t missed it at all. It’s 95% tripe. I will intermittently signup again for a month at a time to catchup on the few excellent shows that are on there, but definitely no more having it “just in case” something is worth watching among the never-ending thumbnail surfing.
There is just not enough content on Disney+ for me. And by content, I mean original content. I have a vast DVD collection and don't need Disney's backlog. Also, I never watch any of my vast DVD collection because I would rather spend my time on new content (I regret spending all that money on all those DVDs). Once I was done with the Imagineering Story, Goldblum Tells All (sic), and Mando I was done with the Disney originals. I am not wasting my time on Forky, the sappy Marvel Heroes (OMG, I hate this show so much), Diary of Female President, and "High School the High School the Musical The High School Musical The Musical The Series The Musical The Singalong The Series The High School™."
Apple TV+ on the other hand has been hitting home run after home run. Every thing I have watched on Apple TV+ (and I have watched everything besides Hala and Helpsters) has been gold. If Apple continues pumping out amazing content, and you multiply that over multiple seasons over the next few years, Apple TV+ will have a formidable catalog indeed.
Apple TV+ on the other hand has been hitting home run after home run. Every thing I have watched on Apple TV+ (and I have watched everything besides Hala and Helpsters) has been gold. If Apple continues pumping out amazing content, and you multiply that over multiple seasons over the next few years, Apple TV+ will have a formidable catalog indeed.
Disney Plus is $6.99 per month (in the U.S.), not $7.99
Disney said the average revenue per paid subscriber was $5.56. So it'd be $5.56 x 28.6 million = $159,016,000 in revenue per month
It would seem like Disney Plus is a cash cow, but it's not. Their Direct-to-Consumer division of which Disney Plus (and Hulu and ESPN+) comprise had an operating loss of $693 million for the quarter.
Per Disney's earnings press release:
Direct-to-Consumer & International revenues for the quarter increased from $0.9 billion to $4.0 billion and segment operating loss increased from $136 million to $693 million. The increase in operating loss was due to costs associated with the launch of Disney+, the consolidation of Hulu and a higher loss at ESPN+.
VidAngel and ClearPlay are your friends. Been using them for years to filter garbage out. It is like the edited for TV version of movies we watched when we were little.
If you have a 4K TV, Disney+ has a lot to offer. A lot of their content is in 4K. They are the only place you can see the Star Wars films in 4K (not available from anyone else in any format). Also, all of their Marvel films are in 4K. The Apple store doesn't even have any of the Marvel films in 4K. It's a no brainer for me.
[automerge]1580916791[/automerge]
So, I'm guessing, that since you have a "vast DVD" collection, you're not really watching much 4K content.
[automerge]1580916791[/automerge]
So, I'm guessing, that since you have a "vast DVD" collection, you're not really watching much 4K content.
I'm loving Disney+. The Mandalorian was fantastic and now I can use it to see what all the fuss is about Clone Wars and Rebels. I was about two years behind on Marvel movies and I've been getting caught up on that also. Really looking forward to the Imagineering Story also.
Same here. I got the email saying I was running out of time to sign up for AppleTV+. I did but the content just isn't interesting to me.
That was really annoying but it was something I only encountered near the launch.
Same here. I got the email saying I was running out of time to sign up for AppleTV+. I did but the content just isn't interesting to me.
That was really annoying but it was something I only encountered near the launch.
You can get it on webOS now, I believe. It's available on my 2019 webOS TV, so give it another try.
They haven't updated the Apple TV hardware because it's WAY faster right now than any TV box deserves to be.
28+Million. 1,000,028
[automerge]1580917809[/automerge]
You can not be a prude and appreciate restraint or tact.
I agree, with my first kid on the way it’s going to be perfect for them. I can just let them use it and not worry about what it is they are watching.
Disney is evil but they would move mountains to make sure everything they do is family friendly. Plus my wife and I have enjoyed watching some of the old stuff we saw as kids.
Disney+ has surely already lost a bunch of those early adopters, including me. They are lying sacks of mouse poo. They claimed that ESPN+ would allow you to watch ESPN, but what they don't advertise it that ESPN+, despite the "+" which suggests better than without "+", you can only watch a few select live sporting events. I was unable to watch any of the NCAA Div 1 FB playoffs. I called CS to ask Disney why I couldn’t watch live sports with ESPN+. Disney transferred me to ESPN CS whixh were totally snarky and combative. I called Disney CS again and they became combative and snarky and down right rude when I explained that their advertising was false and misleading. I ended up telling them to place their Disney+ firmly up the mouse's backside. Disney+ doesn't even have the latest Disney and Pixar releases, as those are still under contract to other services. NatGeo only has a few things. In total it was a waste of money and it was falsely advertised and Disney/ESPN were purposely misleading.
Apple+ has still to make a single show I would care to watch. I guess you just have to be a Millennial aged person to get into that garbage. Using top actors but with terrible scripts and concepts is a major fail that even the top actors can’t save.
Apple+ has still to make a single show I would care to watch. I guess you just have to be a Millennial aged person to get into that garbage. Using top actors but with terrible scripts and concepts is a major fail that even the top actors can’t save.
i get your point. Mine was Netflix still relies heavily on licensed content and will be hard pressed to continue to develop new content as owners of licensed content pull theirs; and producers of TV or theater content do not license the latest content but keep it on their own services. I am not convinced new content alone, with its associated cost and thus the need for a constant stream of increasing revenue, will be enough to sustain a subscriber based to cover the costs. Content producers will simply move to other services as Netflix money dries up, and will enjoy the credibility that came with producing a hit Netflix show to help with the switch.
As for being watched to death, Disney gets a new set of eyeballs as soon as kids are old enough to watch TV. Eventually they have kids and remember fondly what they watched. Do not underestimate the value of their classic cartoons and now live action remakes; all of which means more merchandise sold in stores so one revenue stream supports another. New content is merely part of the equation.
Personally, I foresee the day when Netflix is bought for pennies on the invested dollar by another company to get their original content once the licensed content dries up as their subscriber base shrinks to the point where the money isn’t there to support development.
Yes, Han. My typo. The change altered his character in a way that weakened it, but you are correct it is GL’s call. I fortunately have original theatrical cuts as well as later releases.
i agree we are enjoying a much more diverse artistic climate that is of great benefit. My point that, in some cases, material that was once mainstream is now considered too controversial to make available. Take some Looney Tunes cartoons from WWII.They were clearly racist but indicative of the mood of the nation at the time. WB left them out of the non Laserdisk editions of Golden Era cartoons.
Why do I think it is important to not forget about them and whitewash history as if they did not exist? It is because it opens the door to a wider discussion of what people’s attitudes were at the time and the impact it had. It is not a case of glorifying them but using them to address issues that are still relevant. The danger with forgetting the bad parts of the past is it makes it easier to recreate them in the present. I am of the firm belief that the best antidote to the virus that is hatred is to bring it out in the open where the sunlight can destroy it.
[automerge]1580920016[/automerge]
Exactly. Disney has done a great job of maintaining the value of their catalogue, from Vault releases of classics on DVDs to stimulate demand every new generation to now opening up it for streaming. Many parents remember watching the DVDs in their parents miniVans as children, now with iPads and streaming their kids will do the same although no longer will the kids fight over what to watch. First world problems.
Last edited:
Well I've seen; See, The Morning Show, Servant and For All Mankind, all with pleasure, but now what, not more to see, so why have it, even if it's free?
You are of course entitled to form a prior opinion and choose not to watch the shows, but your second and last sentences there are quite the stretch considering it appears you haven't actually seen any of them.
And? I’ve seen all the Star Wars and Marvel films. Star Wars The Last Jedi was on cable TV last night. The Marvel movies are in regular circulation in cable. No way I’m paying a subscription fee so I can re-watch shows I’ve seen before.
Disney+ only has a single show I’m interested in right now - The Mandalorian. And that was only 10 half-hour episodes. Not exactly a lot of content. The new Marvel shows could be interesting, but a single month subscription and binge watching can take care of that.
I wonder how many subscribers they’ll have in 6 months once everyone has seen what they want to.
Thx for the stat. Income isn’t my point. My question is about the number of customers who choose to pay for it. That’s the real measure of a service’s appeal. I’ll take a lot as long as I’m not the one paying. If your number is correct, knock a fifth off that subscriber stat and compare against paid subscriber numbers for other VOD services.
I agree that Disney isn't completely without ownership of some of that content, but I appreciate that what's on Disney+ is quite contained.
Same here. Absolutely nothing on Apple that I’m interested in. If Apple were serious about this then they should have used some of their money and bought Fox.
They would then be a media power house rather than someone who looks like they make an occasional tv show on the weekend.
My wife subscribed to Disney+ when it launched. Honestly, I haven't used it much after the first season of The Mandalorian ended. We have Apple TV+ for free after I upgraded to my 11 Pro. After watching The Morning Show and Servant, it has gone unused since. I watched one episode of See and just wasn't impressed.
For me, I'm content with Netflix, HBO Now, Amazon and Hulu w/ Live TV subscriptions. Although I do like that I can watch Pixar films whenever I want with Disney+. I highly doubt we'll keep Apple TV+ once the year is up.
For me, I'm content with Netflix, HBO Now, Amazon and Hulu w/ Live TV subscriptions. Although I do like that I can watch Pixar films whenever I want with Disney+. I highly doubt we'll keep Apple TV+ once the year is up.
I enjoyed The Morning Show (so much in fact that I will probably subscribe to Apple TV+ for a month next year to binge watch Season 2). I also got one year free. Servant was simply okay but I did finish the season. Give Truth be Told a shot, it is pretty good. Looking forward to Mythic Quest as well.
Disney+ certainly isn't worth paying for. I own already most of the Disney content I might care about.
Myself, I subscribed to it because and only because Verizon offered the year free. This thread pushed me to finally discontinue it, and now I'm finding that's harder than it seems since Disney thinks there's an active VZW subscription, and tells me I have to go through VZW to cancel it, while VZW doesn't seem to have a record of it and so says there's nothing to cancel. Needless to say, I don't trust them, VZW would magically find their mistaken records at the end date of the free promo and start charging me for it.
Myself, I subscribed to it because and only because Verizon offered the year free. This thread pushed me to finally discontinue it, and now I'm finding that's harder than it seems since Disney thinks there's an active VZW subscription, and tells me I have to go through VZW to cancel it, while VZW doesn't seem to have a record of it and so says there's nothing to cancel. Needless to say, I don't trust them, VZW would magically find their mistaken records at the end date of the free promo and start charging me for it.
Exactly. Sucks when if you remove all the MA stuff, it's actually a good show/movie. One nice exception I watched was The Circle. It had some occasional swearing and flirting, but was over all mildly MA.
[automerge]1580925528[/automerge]
Yea I only was interested in and watched Snoopy in Space, and will return when another season releases. I've watched tons of things on Disney+ and have barely scratched the surface of just Through the Decades. And if even one new thing shows a month I want to watch, I've gotten my moneys worth with how much digital rentals cost anymore.
I thought that show was going to be a train wreck. It was surprising how wholesome and nice it ended up being!
It seems like nobody today is producing light, fun shows.
Everything is intense over-the-top drama with characters that take themselves and their situations way too seriously. It's like for the past 10 years or so, every writer in hollywood has the emotional development and sense of drama of an angsty 8th grader.