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Apple has added a new support document on its website (via iFun.de) that confirms the third-generation Apple TV or later can be used to control HomeKit-enabled accessories when you are away from home using an iOS device.

After signing in with the same Apple ID on an iOS device and Apple TV, users can use Siri commands to remotely control lights, locks, thermostats, smart plugs and other HomeKit-enabled accessories. A separate new support document lists the available HomeKit-compatible devices as they begin to roll out.

The new support documents were added just as multiple accessory makers announced the first HomeKit-compatible products, including Lutron, iHome, Elgato, Insteon and Ecobee. Many of the accessories are available for purchase or pre-order this week, and others should be unveiled following Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference next week.

It has been known that the Apple TV would serve as a centralized hub for many of these accessories since their original unveiling at CES 2015 in January, while support for the HomeKit framework was quietly included in the Apple TV 7.0 software update last September, but today marks one of the first official confirmations from Apple.

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Apple is widely expected to announce a new A8-based Apple TV with an App Store and Siri at WWDC next week. The next-generation set-top box is rumored to feature a "dramatic increase" in internal storage, well beyond the 8GB included in the current model, and the inclusion of Siri will enable users to control HomeKit-enabled accessories using voice commands.

HomeKit was announced at WWDC last year as a software framework for communicating with and controlling connected devices in the home, but the home automation platform experienced delays over the ensuing months and did not officially launch until this month. Apple is expected to provide more details about HomeKit and related accessories during its WWDC keynote on June 8 at 10 AM Pacific.

(Thanks, Marco!)

Article Link: Apple TV Confirmed as Central Hub for Remotely Controlling HomeKit-Enabled Accessories
 

thybigfoot

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All hell would break loose if they try to pull a stunt like that.
Well the bridge used is not MFi certified... I could imagine the bulbs keep working (Z-Wave anyway, and that won't change IMHO), but we'll need a new HomeKit ready MFi certified bridge...
 
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boshii

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Well the bridge used is not MFi certified... I could imagine the bulbs keep working (Z-Wave anyway, and that won't change IMHO), but we'll need a new HomeKit ready MFi certified bridge...
I would think the new AppleTV would become the bridge, no?

Maybe there will be an app you install on it.
 
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H2SO4

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Sounds great but I imagine as usual it will have a lot of missing features that will come with AppleTV 5.

Hopefully it has it's own storage so I can finally leave my Mac off while watching HB'd DVD's.
Thing is tho. I shouldn’t even need AppleTV for this. Homekit should also have an interface that is found in System Preferences.
 

Shawn Parr

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Hope no new bridge / bulbs are needed!

Definitely will require a new bridge. HomeKit accessories require an MFi certified hardware chip to do the authentication of the device into HomeKit. The bulbs are ZigBee and according to the developer docs if they are paired with a MFi bridge, that bridge can connect them into HomeKit as long as they aren't a security type device (i.e. door lock).

Thing is tho. I shouldn’t even need AppleTV for this. Homekit should also have an interface that is found in System Preferences.

You only need an AppleTV to control the devices if you aren't on the local WiFi network. Any iOS device on the same network should be able to connect directly to the devices. If you want control while "out and about" the AppleTV acts as a bridge/relay for getting the commands to your local network.

All that is according to the current Apple Developer documentation and videos from last year's WWDC. Some of this may change next week, but I am guessing it will mostly stay like that.
 

H2SO4

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Definitely will require a new bridge. HomeKit accessories require an MFi certified hardware chip to do the authentication of the device into HomeKit. The bulbs are ZigBee and according to the developer docs if they are paired with a MFi bridge, that bridge can connect them into HomeKit as long as they aren't a security type device (i.e. door lock).



You only need an AppleTV to control the devices if you aren't on the local WiFi network. Any iOS device on the same network should be able to connect directly to the devices. If you want control while "out and about" the AppleTV acts as a bridge/relay for getting the commands to your local network.

All that is according to the current Apple Developer documentation and videos from last year's WWDC. Some of this may change next week, but I am guessing it will mostly stay like that.
Yeah I heard that but I assumed that as you may well have an Airport Exteme or Time Capsule that the hardware/network infrastructure is already there. Just need software to top it off. They are very good at trying to make you purchase one of each of their entire catalogue.
 

Shawn Parr

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Yeah I heard that but I assumed that as you may well have an Airport Exteme or Time Capsule that the hardware/network infrastructure is already there. Just need software to top it off. They are very good at trying to make you purchase one of each of their entire catalogue.

I understand the desire for that. :)

However the Airport stuff all runs a totally different OS than everything else. The Apple TV is iOS, but with a different display layer added. Now if they were to put out an Airport Extreme/Time Capsule that used iOS for its system then they could easily do it. But for cost reasons it would likely be on an older A series chip than current and I don't know what kind of performance they could get on it. I don't think either the chips or the OS is optimized for network switch/router processing. I could be wrong though. ;)
 

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Philips confirms Hue will be part of Apple's HomeKit announcements:
https://www.facebook.com/huePhilips/posts/681652905299930

Hope no new bridge / bulbs are needed!

Where do you get confirmation that they'll be part of Apple's HomeKit announcements from this (emphasis mine)?

Philips hue
Hi Chess,

Lighting is an integral part of home automation. We were happy to be part of Apple’s HomeKit platform announcements in June 2014.

It represents the next step in our strategy: By connecting Philips Hue with other devices in the home we will further build our ecosystem, providing new possibilities for consumers to experience and enjoy.

Keep monitoring our web site (www.meethue.com ) for more information.

Thanks,

Diederick

They're just reiterating what we already know: Hue was announced as a partner last year but we haven't seen or heard any news since then. According to Apple's own HomeKit documents, it sounds very much like they'll need new Hue hardware to be MFi compliant.
 
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to be honest i would be fine with a whole interface overhall and a box that streams local stuff without buffering endlessly while stuff that actually has to download e. g. netflix works roght away. pos
 

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Aren't these accessories expensive? What is the cost of entry for your average house?

(Edit: to set it up with home kit, not to buy a house.)
 

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Philips confirms Hue will be part of Apple's HomeKit announcements:
https://www.facebook.com/huePhilips/posts/681652905299930

Hope no new bridge / bulbs are needed!

Unfortunately, Philips didn't confirm that Hue would be part of HomeKit, just that Philips themselves were happy to be part of Apple's HomeKit announcement last year and to keep watching the Hue website for updates.

Most HomeKit devices seem to connect directly to your home network via WiFi. I think this is a waste, as WiFi uses much more power than ZigBee (which is what Hue uses and my measurements put it at <0.5 W) or Z-Wave (probably about the same consumption) and there will be "vampire draws" all around your home electrical system if every device does this. The advantage is that you don't need any sort of "bridge" to merge the devices onto your regular home network since they are already there. If WiFi is a requirement, I think a new version of the Bridge should be able to provide this, though I don't see why WiFi is even a requirement in the first place when Hue provides a wired network interface and it doesn't really matter how the device connects to the network as long as it's on it.

So...I could maybe see the Hue Bridge working as-is if an Ethernet connection is OK. (Anyone remember the HomeKit requirements? I don't.) I think a likely situation is that they'll need a new Bridge. I don't see why you would need new bulbs since the Bridge can take care of any required communication with the bulbs (and I don't think any current smart bulb even uses WiFi for every bulb, at most just one "hub" bulb which is really just like a built-in bridge).
 
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