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It says that you have to use the same Apple ID on the Apple TV and iPhone to control devices. What if you have multiple iOS users in one house?

Thats what i was thinking. I share with 3 friends in the house we are all iPhone users. Im not leaving my Apple ID signed in the TV.
 
to be honest i would be fine with a whole interface overhall and a box that streams local stuff without buffering endlessly while stuff that actually has to download e. g. netflix works roght away. pos

Yeah I've noticed Netflix is pretty hiccupy on Apple TV - in most instances I end up reverting to the PS3. Not sure if the issue's with Netflix or ATV, but other devices don't have as many problems. :confused:
 
I think Apple has found what they needed to make this product different and competitive. It'll set them appart from the competition.

Agreed! Because right now it's the best thing for my three year old and nothing much else. Sure I can control the content and stream to it, but so can every other box.

Can't wait to see what new things I can do with home automation, and eager to see if my current box is obsolete.
 
It says that you have to use the same Apple ID on the Apple TV and iPhone to control devices. What if you have multiple iOS users in one house?

From the article linked in the MacRumors post it appears there is a way to add guest users, and that they need to add their Apple Accounts on the TV to use it for bridging. The Apple TV now supports having multiple accounts simultaneously. I don't know if you can add people ad-hoc, or if it uses family sharing, or some combination. Family Sharing with some sort of auto-configuration would be great in my house.

So...I could maybe see the Hue Bridge working as-is if an Ethernet connection is OK. (Anyone remember the HomeKit requirements? I don't.) I think a likely situation is that they'll need a new Bridge. I don't see why you would need new bulbs since the Bridge can take care of any required communication with the bulbs (and I don't think any current smart bulb even uses WiFi for every bulb, at most just one "hub" bulb which is really just like a built-in bridge).

For a device to connect directly to HomeKit it requires some encryption and authentication. This is handled by a hardware chip that you have to be part of the MFi program to get access to. There will need to be a new Philips Hue hub for it to integrate into HomeKit. In the document linked there is a section about parking where it discusses a key found on the device you are connecting, that key is from the MFi chip installed in the device.

Obviously Apple has said that WiFi and Bluetooth are both ways to connect to HomeKit. I haven't seen anything that would rule out using wired ethernet, but maybe there is something in Apple's implementation that wouldn't allow that.
 
Hopefully it has it's own storage so I can finally leave my Mac off while watching HB'd DVD's.

You know this isn't going to happen, right? Apple might up the storage a bit for apps and to support things like HomeKit but it isn't going to add a hard drive. That would make the device costs $300 or more.

I'm surprised no one has associated HomeKit with CarPlay... If Apple opens up some of the functionality of HomeKit to CarPlay in the future, it could give car manufacturers an easy way to do some things with a car that either weren't cheap or weren't possible...

"Siri, start my car."
"Siri, lock my car doors."
"Siri, where is my car located."
 
It says that you have to use the same Apple ID on the Apple TV and iPhone to control devices. What if you have multiple iOS users in one house?

This was always a pain when i used the ATV. I'd rather the accounts be tied to the service providers like on Roku. Apple needs to remember that a house can have at least 5 Apple IDs present on a day to day basis, each with their own content and credit cards.
 
I am super excited about this!

It says that you have to use the same Apple ID on the Apple TV and iPhone to control devices. What if you have multiple iOS users in one house?
Very good point. I don't see it being a huge issue at my house (even though there are multiple Apple ID holders) because everything on the Apple TV just goes through my account. However, I could see this being an issue for certain families or people with roommates.
 
Philips confirms Hue will be part of Apple's HomeKit announcements:
https://www.facebook.com/huePhilips/posts/681652905299930

Hope no new bridge / bulbs are needed!

They did NOT announce that. At least they did not say that they would be ready by next week.

In response to my question as to whether they would be announcing compatibility next week, Their quote is:

"Lighting is an integral part of home automation. We were happy to be part of Apple’s HomeKit platform announcements in June 2014.

It represents the next step in our strategy: By connecting Philips Hue with other devices in the home we will further build our ecosystem, providing new possibilities for consumers to experience and enjoy.

Keep monitoring our web site (www.meethue.com ) for more information."
 
"Lighting is an integral part of home automation. We were happy to be part of Apple’s HomeKit platform announcements in June 2014.

It represents the next step in our strategy: By connecting Philips Hue with other devices in the home we will further build our ecosystem, providing new possibilities for consumers to experience and enjoy.

Keep monitoring our web site (www.meethue.com ) for more information."

Sounds to me like they are waiting to see how many complaints they get if they don't ship a compatible hub. If not enough people complain they'll continue on their merry way. If enough people complain they'll start selling a new hub when they can get it ready. I'm sure they don't want to pay the licensing fees and/or want to spend as little as possible on development around HomeKit (hardware-wise) when they feel their existing API is "good enough."
 
Excited!

I just hope they keep pricing competitive. Any time I see "increased storage" regarding an Apple product, all I see is money leaving my bank account.
 
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The new Apple TV is going to be absolutely incredible. I can't wait to see everything Apple announces next week about this. I'm already preparing to line up to buy at least four of them.

You think they'll announce a new device without TV service to go with it rather than waiting to announce a new service and device that big on its own? I don't see Apple announcing a new device and saying "Streaming TV is coming later but we have no idea when...." Something as large as the streaming service people are rumoring would likely have its own keynote rather than share the stage.
 
Having had a smarthome for only 33% of the smarthome time period (13 out of 40 years), I find the power consumption of the appliances driving the smart home to be more of a "next generation" issue.

Having lights shut off automagically at 10pm every night makes my home consume 600 wh (0.6 kwh) per day. The Apple TV uses 6 watts (per the power supply on Apple's page), so having it on consumes 0.06 kwh, a 100x improvement.

Having motion sensors that detect movement, and when there is none, to gradually shut lights off (over 10 minutes) helps as well, and the security light outside from 1 hour (random +/- 30 minutes) after and before sunset/rise helps with security.

Also, having a panic button that "randomly" makes lights turn on/off throughout the house when we hit the panic button is nice to draw attention to the house for when the police arrive.
"Hey Joe, I wonder what house is being broken into..."
"Maybe the one, at 1am, that has all the lights randomly turning off and on, while the rest of them are all dark, and the porch light using Morse code to say that the perps are in the living room."

Getting back to the main point, perhaps the Pareto of the power usage of the controlled devices should be the driving force, and with light bulbs radically using less power (8w for a former 60w bulb is what I call "radical"), the time may be coming for a look at the controllers for the power savings.

But then again, I'll take a 6 watt controller (Apple TV) over a 70W computer (Retina iMac)
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/the-new-retina-imac-is-surprisingly-power-efficient.1802292/
 
It says that you have to use the same Apple ID on the Apple TV and iPhone to control devices. What if you have multiple iOS users in one house?

My guess is there will be a HomeKit login in the phone settings. So you can login to HomeKit with a different Apple ID than your iTunes and the like.
 
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