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I thought that there were warehouses already bulging with these things. Perhaps they are waiting for the Europ iTS movie rollout. God, let's hope so or they are going to sell about three of them in the UK, and those three people will be pissed when they find out that they can't buy anything but stupid music videos and Pixar shorts for their $300 box.

I would have also thought that by this time the units had been manufactured and ready for shipment, it seems that a problem with existing units would put them back at square one in the process with a warehouse of unusable products. I would guess there is a shortage of units to meet demand, or that something related is not ready, such as the ITMS.
 
Its fine with me since I wasn't planning on getting it until I got a new TV in april or may anyway.

I do with there were more movies on itunes and even some HD content. I think it kinda sucks to have an HDMI with no real need for it.
 
I'm not sold on the :apple: tv but I would have interest in the iphone if didnt cost so damn much. 500 beans is a joke for an ipod that has a phone.

The T-Mobile MDA costs $500. My coworker bought one of these but was unable to get the service subsidy (she was already on the T-mobile network)
It comes with a few MB as onboard storage and the software aint that great. I would hardly call WinMobile intuitive.

If you want to see an overpriced hunk o' junk, check out LG's Shine. This doodad has a 64MB flash drive with the option for expansion and a similar monochrome interface to the iPhone, and has a nice beefy pricetag of $700. The reason people say the iPhone is so expensive is because it has a higher profile than most other phones. But even with network subsidies flying around many people still have to pay full price for lots of these phones even if they were already part of the network. The RAZR cost $500 when it was new. It's the shoddiest piece of crap ever, but it sure looks svelt. The interface is terrible, and the hardware feels chintzy. Considering all these things, the iPhone doesn't look like a bad deal.
 
The Apple TV should be priced around $129..... as a simple upgrade to the Airport Express. For video, it's not a replacement for your DVDs because it won't stream a 5.1 signal. This is absoutely insane. As for being a music streamer... the visual interface makes a lot of sense and is cool.... it just needs to be much cheaper.

I agree. I dont know about price for parts but as far as function yeah 129 would be reasonable to me. I have a home theater. 42" widescreen with a very nice surround system. Why would I want to watch a $15 downloaded movie thats in 2.0 stereo. I still dont get it. What if I want to bring the movie over to a friends house or sell/trade it? I have no interest in a visual interface on my tv for my music. I hope who ever buys this thing is happy with it. I just dont get it. Even if they let you rent movies I think the price is still to high. Again no 5.1 surround, no hard copy. Yeah and if you can rip the download to a cd it's still not the same.
 
I find it bizarre that people want the disks. DVDs and CDs are just clutter...

What an antiquated way to house digital information.
 
The T-Mobile MDA costs $500. My coworker bought one of these but was unable to get the service subsidy (she was already on the T-mobile network)
It comes with a few MB as onboard storage and the software aint that great. I would hardly call WinMobile intuitive.

If you want to see an overpriced hunk o' junk, check out LG's Shine. This doodad has a 64MB flash drive with the option for expansion and a similar monochrome interface to the iPhone, and has a nice beefy pricetag of $700. The reason people say the iPhone is so expensive is because it has a higher profile than most other phones. But even with network subsidies flying around many people still have to pay full price for lots of these phones even if they were already part of the network. The RAZR cost $500 when it was new. It's the shoddiest piece of crap ever, but it sure looks svelt. The interface is terrible, and the hardware feels chintzy. Considering all these things, the iPhone doesn't look like a bad deal.

I'm not a big cell phone person. It would be a waste for me. I already have an ipod. I have no interest in watching movies on tiny screen. I wouldnt buy a any expensive smart phone. I just want to make a call once in a while. I must say the iphone does look cool. I like the touch screen though I can imagine wiping body oil and fingerprints off it constantly. My ipod is so scratched up it looks like it was made during the stone age.
 
I find it bizarre that people want the disks. DVDs and CDs are just clutter...

What an antiquated way to house digital information.

It's not bizzare it's a sure way of saving your investment. Like nobody has ever lost data off there cpu.
 
Wow, I never thought ThinkSecret would have a correct rumor again.

Say, is there a rumor scorecard for TS in the guides section? I saw one for some analyst, but I couldn't find one for TS.
 
And what about those DVD's people already own? "Well, you just re-buy them from iTunes".

Well there are two answers to this question.

Yes

and

No

The paradigm concerning new video formats that we have been living with from the start has been when a new format comes out, we re-buy the movies we like the most in the new format. This was true with old reel to reel movies (yes back in the day you could buy reel to reel movies), VHS, Laserdisc and DVD (this concept was pushed to the limit with all of the repackaging of movies that goes on, from the regular edition to the Directors Cut to the Special Edition to the 1 Year Anniversary Edition!).

And what does that mean, more junk for landfills.

I say the answer could be "no" also, because people could just use the available software that is out there and rip their DVDs themselves.

However, in the long run, buy becoming media/hardware dependent prevents the industry from forcing you to choose from two competing formats.
 
Well, hard drives die spontaneously. Sometimes you're lucky and SMART tells you it's dying, but sometimes they just won't work anymore. Then there are viruses. I once had one (back in the days when I used PCs for private stuff) that corrupted every file on my hard drive. It also contaminated the backup drive, so my backup drive was useless. Luckily, I burn the important stuff to optical media (CDs, DVDs nowadays) so they are "read only" when the backup is done. Important stuff is all my e-mails, address book, documents. Photos and music take a lot of space, they're burnt less frequently.

It's also a good idea to have 2 backup drives and alternate between the two. So when one backup drive dies, you still have the other one. Use Disk Utility to make a full backup of the Macintosh HD. It takes just 15 minutes to restore a system on a new hard drive.
 
More than 1 AppleTV Configuration??????

Okay, here's a shot in the dark:
If you go to the Apple Store online right now and click on AppleTV, it says at the top "Select your AppleTV" just like it does with the MacBook, etc., but there is only 1 configuration to "select" on the page. Is this just bad grammar on the part of Apple or could it be that we'll see 2 or 3 Apple TV configurations come Mid-March???:D :D
 
i think what you guys need to realize is it may not be delayed because of hardware issues on the itv per say but because of them getting HD ready content up and on itunes for the release. not to mention maybe another movie studio....
 
Okay, here's a shot in the dark:
If you go to the Apple Store online right now and click on AppleTV, it says at the top "Select your AppleTV" just like it does with the MacBook, etc., but there is only 1 configuration to "select" on the page. Is this just bad grammar on the part of Apple or could it be that we'll see 2 or 3 Apple TV configurations come Mid-March???:D :D

I noticed the same thing a while back but wrote it off. If there were more models planned so soon, I would hope all customers waiting for the original would be offered a chance to switch.
 
I noticed the same thing a while back but wrote it off. If there were more models planned so soon, I would hope all customers waiting for the original would be offered a chance to switch.

Yea, they'd have to send all the pre-buyers an e-mail giving them an option to upgrade if they wish.
 
My Perfect AppleTV Extreme....

The current AppleTV plus:
120GB HD
Blu-Ray Drive
Dual HDTV Tuners with recording (i.e. HD DVR)

This would be an HD Tivo plus a Blu-Ray player plus AppleTV.

I'd gladly pay $800 for this

In all likelyhood if AppleTV is successful I think we could see something like this next year.
 
Wild ideas in my head...

Would it be something if :apple: TV has a web browser? But then you would need some sort of keyboard to enter URL and such. Oh wait, how about sync'ing your bookmarks from your safari? Or how about a wireless keyboard? Hee..

This reminds me too much of WebTV.. but it would still be a good idea though since the :apple: TV itself will always be connected online and you happen to be sitting on a couch watching the TV (might as well surf the web as well if there is nothing good to watch.) :D
 
I've learned from the Debian community that things released by a certain date is a death sentence. "It will be released when it is ready to be released" is the mantra I have learned to play in my head on command. Had Apple changed the release date to, say, six months from now instead of two/three weeks from now, that might be something to be mad about. Delays happen in the business world and I'm not too worried about it. It's a slow way to start off the new year in the Apple community, but things will pick up. You'll all see!! :)
 
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