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YAWN! How about adding Apple Music to Apple TV or another free Movie/TV Streaming service there are many for free and Amazon Prime not sure anymore who Apple TV Streaming is for. It least add SHUDDER Horror Movie streaming to Apple TV.

Apple TV has long way to go compared to ROKU as a hardware and the streaming service.

How about you waiting until the upcoming TV announcement before saying another word? And if Roku already has everything you need then why post? Just get one and enjoy it.
 
Need appear in a different country.

Normally I use Adfreetime, which is $1.99/month DNS redirect service that I use on my iPad with the NFL Gamepass app to watch NFL games using my international game pass subscription ($130). From there I AirPlay it to the Apple TV. Not ideal but works.

I was really hoping that that same setup would work on the new Apple TV app, but so far I can't get it to work. I have the Adfreetime DNS in my Apple TV ethernet settings, and then use a VPN on my computer to activate my NFL app at nfl.com/atv, but it still pops up with the subscription setting everytime I attempt to watch a game on the NFL app on Apple TV.

If anyone figures out something that works, please let me know
 
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Just the Apple way. Give you part of something, call it ground breaking, charge the heck out of you and then next year give a little more so they can do it all over again....all the while never providing what others have provided for years at a lower price.

The NFL makes their pricing policies, not Apple.

Thank you.

And Apple is the King of Greed.

Not relevant to this discussion. The NFL is selling you a loaf of day old bread and claiming it's 'fresh!' They're the ones retaining exclusivity to their overpriced Sunday Ticket, not Apple. MLB is light years beyond the NFL in terms of fan friendly access to their LIVE content. I pay $25 a month in-season for MLB.TV, which gives me access to both H/A HD broadcasts of every.single.game on my iPad, iPhone, Apple TV, PS3, Amazon Fire. I cut the cord a few years ago, and MLB was right there with me. This year the HD is friggin' pristine. There's zero drop-off.

The NFL *chooses* how they stream its content to you. It chooses to bend you over the barrel and call it a date. They're the greedy bastards, specific to this instance, not Apple.
 
Normally I use Adfreetime, which is $1.99/month DNS redirect service that I use on my iPad with the NFL Gamepass app to watch NFL games using my international game pass subscription ($130). From there I AirPlay it to the Apple TV. Not ideal but works.

I was really hoping that that same setup would work on the new Apple TV app, but so far I can't get it to work. I have the Adfreetime DNS in my Apple TV ethernet settings, and then use a VPN on my computer to activate my NFL app at nfl.com/atv, but it still pops up with the subscription setting everytime I attempt to watch a game on the NFL app on Apple TV.

If anyone figures out something that works, please let me know

If it helps at all, it looks like the same thing is happening for those of us who are legitimately in other countries. I hope it gets fixed soon.
 
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I'm floored at how the NFL insists upon screwing over its fans. MLB is *light years* ahead in terms of customer experience with MLB.TV. Greed wins out, simply put.

NFL is the most profitable professional sports league, so you are right greed does win. If their current model makes them so much money, and is projected to make them even more, why would they change?
 
NFL is the most profitable professional sports league, so you are right greed does win. If their current model makes them so much money, and is projected to make them even more, why would they change?

Because they're alienating cord cutters with the exclusivity deal with DirecTV, and the fact there's not even a price point on the table as for how to get access to live games anyplace that isn't satellite-friendly, in a bar, or in the locale of the home team playing in a sold out stadium (thus lifting the blackout rule).
 
If it helps at all, it looks like the same thing is happening for those of us who are legitimately in other countries. I hope it gets fixed soon.

Ah good, then I'm sure they will. Season is still 9 days away and I noticed on Twitter that the @NFLGamePass account is getting blasted with people complaining about that. I just wasn't sure if they were all people in other countries or just people in the States in my situation
 
Very rarely do people want to watch recorded sports.

maybe in your circle but I know a few people in my circle that watch recorder sports all the time. Especially to analyze and learn the plays that were run. For a casual fan, for sure, live is the only way.

if they offer All-22 of all these games, I'd be all over this.
 
Does MLB still black out local games though? I looked at it a few years ago and it wouldn't allow me to see any local games, so it killed the deal for me.
 
The days of subsidized cable sports are waning. I would expect sports packages to continue to rise in cost at the true sports fans expense. More ads and higher prices are the only way the sports industry can continue it's outrageous extravagance. On the plus side, I would imagine the options for viewing will have to increase allowing paying customers to watch on more of their devices.
 
Does MLB still black out local games though? I looked at it a few years ago and it wouldn't allow me to see any local games, so it killed the deal for me.

Yes, they do.

Thankfully, I follow a team that is not the "local" team, so I can watch most games.
 
Because they're alienating cord cutters with the exclusivity deal with DirecTV, and the fact there's not even a price point on the table as for how to get access to live games anyplace that isn't satellite-friendly, in a bar, or in the locale of the home team playing in a sold out stadium (thus lifting the blackout rule).

Yes and all that alienating of cord cutters doesn't even register as a blip on their profit radar. So again what reason is their for them to change?
 
Does MLB still black out local games though? I looked at it a few years ago and it wouldn't allow me to see any local games, so it killed the deal for me.

A $5 a month DNS scrambler is all you need for that. Manfred (new MLB commish) said he's looking into eliminating the local blackout for MLB.TV subscribers, though.

Yes and all that alienating of cord cutters doesn't even register as a blip on their profit radar. So again what reason is their for them to change?

It's beyond cord cutting though. It's about customer service. If you're traveling, you can't watch the game unless you're at an airport bar. If you're out of town visiting your parents or friends/relatives, you can't watch the game unless they themselves have the Ticket. It's insipidly pennywise, pound foolish. They extract every last dollar instead of just charging a few hundred bucks and letting you access the live content any way you wish.
 
Unfortunately due to ethical requirements I have with certain professional groups/organizations, I cannot use something like a dynamic DNS service provider, or have someone out of the area use their credit card for it. I'll continue to wait until MLB and others get their heads out of their butts.

I did subscribe a few years ago, and really liked what it offered. Really enhanced the game with all the options available.
 
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