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Apple TV Games Must Work With Apple TV Remote, May Not Require External Controller
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Kinda laaaaame. On one hand I get it, on the other, it seems to set just way to arbitrary a limitation on Apple TV game mechanics. The darn remote has NO buttons that would be used in-game, from what I can tell.
Guess I'll have to continue leaning on my PS4 for gaming... ;-)
Guess I'll have to continue leaning on my PS4 for gaming... ;-)
Supporting basic remote functionality does not take any developer resources or time. They are already supporting may iOS features that are unused by their customers. Requiring support of the standard remote makes much more sense than not requiring it. Imagine how annoying it would be to go from game to game not knowing if you can use the ATV remote or a third party controller. That's much more annoying than this little requirement for developers.
Why would anyone think the Apple TV is supposed to be like the dedicated gaming devices? That's just silliness that allows so many of you to moan and groan and threaten to take your business elsewhere. Please go, Apple won't mind.
Apple tv is primarily not a game device. I'm very sure there will be plenty of games for the casual gamer who has no desire to have an xbox, etc, to enjoy on the apple tv. I'll be one of them. I don't want any fancy controller. 99% of Apple's customers don't visit these forums and don't complain about every thing as is seen here. If Apple lost everyone on this forum as a customer, they wouldn't even blink an eye.
So those of you who expect an xbox need to use some intelligence and understand what the Apple TV is all about and what it isn't. It's not an xbox. It never will be and it shouldn't be!
Thank you. I don't understand why everyone is discounting games that require thumbsticks and specialized controllers. If anything, this makes the software purchase a better experience for customers and more lucrative for developers because they can bundle 3rd party controllers with their game if they want to and also claim to support the ATV natively. Of course the game experience would sometimes suffer by only using the ATV remote. Did anyone seriously think Apple was going to build and include the ultimate 1st person shooter controller with the ATV? Or did they think that an ATV remote would magically work best for all games? I don't understand the criticism in this forum.
Yeah because that's a great way to promote and sell games to customers - hide half of the store from them.
Apple has a really peculiar attitude. When you launch a new platform you try to attract developers, not yo weed them out before they even start. But who knows...maybe you are right!
and yet...I think that a lot, if not most, of the GREAT pc and console games will simply not be possible to adapt to something as the Apple remote. I don't know, it's not my job, maybe I just lack imagination, but I have been playing for many years. I tried many platforms with many different controllers, including the wii.
I think this was a dumb move that will bring the platform to be filled with stupid ad-supported freemium games
Most developers who will develop for the ATV will make their software work with whatever the customer will expect to have anyway. When people are bored with their Apple TV and don't find anything useful to watch, they will go to the App Store, and find a game, and if they are supported right out of the box they will shell out the cash; if they need to pick up some esoteric controller from some unknown retail store in faraway land - they will not likely get the game.
Even on PC the developers have adapted the use to the mouse and/or keyboard for most titles, even though joystick and other controllers do exist.
Even on PC the developers have adapted the use to the mouse and/or keyboard for most titles, even though joystick and other controllers do exist.
Oh...geez...how can you do something as simple as a jump forward on a 2d platform with that?
Come on! That's a remote, not a game controller!
It's an amazing remote, I guess.
It can ALSO be a great controller for A FEW games but requiring it...means that after all these years Apple still doesn't get games (except maybe the most casual and shallow ones).
Well...150 euros more in my pockets I guess
You obviously have no experience using the most popular casual console gaming platform...Wii
I've purchased multiple hardware accessories, such as the Logitech Harmony Home, August Smart Lock, and Nest Thermostat, that do exactly what you speak of. How would a game controller be any different in this case?
Slow down a bit and you'll see that I edited my post to compensate before you quoted me.
If say the download option was greyed out and a user tried to download a game then a notice could be displayed. If it's a killer app then people will likely go buy a controller.
Not elegant but better than the review ********* that would go down if people started buying apps they couldn't play.
Not even going to bother with the new apple tv, there's nothing new on it. I have an iphone that I can use siri to get information onto my current gen device. Not to mention apple watch controls the tv too. Call me when appletv supports using your iphone as the controller, don't need to use the remote at all.
What are you talking about? Guitar Hero and Rock Band make all their money from selling specialized plastic controllers. They already demonstrated a working game using the ATV remote but they will make all their money by selling special guitars, drum kits and microphones that also support their games on ATV.
It's likely they'll update the remote app to allow a Siri pass through to the TV. Would be silly if they didn't.
ATV always has and will continue to support using iPhone and iPad as a controller. What do you really want besides a reason to complain?
Well considering the iPhone and iPad have the same restriction; it doesn't seem to have held them back...
So you think it's the games, and that Apple TV is going to have better games? Don't be so sure. So far all we know about this market is that people who want to play games on their TVs buy the XBox One and Playstation 4.
This controller restriction means we will be seeing big-screen iOS ports and at best Nintendo Wii style games. The Wii was successful because it offered casual gaming in the pre-smartphone era. That market quickly moved over to mobile and Nintendo hasn't been able to get their gamers in front of a TV since.
There's little reason to think the Apple TV is going to become a competitive gaming platform.
Yes it has. Have you seen iOS gaming recently? Its garbage.
Perhaps you could make a game where the menus are controllable via the remote but the game itself does not. The wording does seem a bit vague. It could just be an attempt to remedy a situation where someone could not perform basic actions in an app like fiddling with game settings and such.
Is it because of silly articles like this?
http://www.inquisitr.com/2414329/xbox-one-vs-ps4-apple-tv-may-slay-them-both/
http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-xbox-one-vs-apple-tv-2015-9
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/09/15/new-apple-tv-vs-microsoft-xbox-one/
(It's enough to read the URL, no need to click on the links.)