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Apple TV+ Show 'The Problem With Jon Stewart' Reportedly Canceled

This simply reinforces my view that Apple should stick to hardware, double down on improving it's software, and forget about content. It's spreading itself thin with content, which has largely been irrelevant in my view.

Fix your OS'. Fix Siri. Fix iTunes (and it's successors). Get out of the content business completely and leave it to others.
 
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alexandr said:
Yes, China is very concerned about the Jon Stewart show.
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Concerned not about the show itself, but the topic. It's no different than how some people have apolgized for calling Taiwan a country or how Vietnam got upset and banned the Barbie movie all because of a child-like map. It doesn't take much to upset some people and maybe that's what Apple was worried about.
 
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Best of luck john you will probably do better now that you distanced yourself from Apple so much for free speech 😆😆😆😆
 
Great, just in time for my three-month AppleTV+ trial to end and for me to cancel the subscription before they start billing me, so I can tell Apple this is the reason why. I’m pretty sure Jon Stewart will find other venues for his show (maybe even just in podcast form, just to rub it in their faces) and his fans will follow. 🤷‍♂️
 
MBAir2010 said:
anyone else never really liked one TV show besides me?
they all have a mundane factor and never go the extra step.
Anyway, moving on!
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I am watching foundation s2 but I think it lacks some dirt, not to the point of hbo but I need to see more freedom and less shiny polite stuff… I want provocative/engaging/polarizing stuff. but I’m French so I’m trashy and I don’t ever wash myself obviously.
 
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JanoschR said:
Question is: what is causing more public outcry? Simply airing the show and not many people will notice or cancel it and be in the news for muting criticism of China et. al.?
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The problem is likely China itself, and the stifling effect it is having on speech. Even if few are watching, China is, and they will retaliate against Apple if Apple is sponsoring content they believe casts them in an objectionable light.

The issue here could be entirely different, but I suspect it isn't. We've seen this before where China is concerned.
 
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Stewart:

F what these executives want. Launch your own show. Put it on Youtube. Put it on Rumble. Put it on Telegram. Put the transcript on Substack.

They cannot silence you.
 
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bluespark said:
The problem is likely China itself, and the stifling effect it is having on speech. Even if few are watching, China is, and they will retaliate against Apple if Apple is sponsoring content they believe casts them in an objectionable light.

The issue here could be entirely different, but I suspect it isn't. We've seen this before where China is concerned.
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Ultimately though, there is nothing new here. The US puts their thumbs on the scales outside their sovereign bounds all the time. Across the globe, regional powers do the same to their neighbors.

Really no putting the genie back into the bottle. We live in a global capital regime and key nodes in the machine - which China certainly is now - will have outsized influence that stretches past their national authority.
 
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Robert.Walter said:
Jon is perhaps the best overall interviewer on any topic today. And you flushed his show?!

Terrible move Apple!

If Apple can’t stand up to a Jon Stewart exposé then it is possibly on the wrong side of the topic.
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Timmy got his marching orders from his overlords in Beijing.
 
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tcphoto1 said:
Jon was hitting on important topics that the main stream media missed or only gave a quick gloss over, he can take his show anywhere and I'd watch it. He not only gave the facts but gave the victims and advocates a voice. As I've said, commonsense isn't so common.
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Seeing what the main-stream media has been saying about China and Russia the last few months, I'd love to know what they glossed over. I guess they really wanted to keep us in the dark.
 
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JanoschR said:
Question is: what is causing more public outcry? Simply airing the show and not many people will notice or cancel it and be in the news for muting criticism of China et. al.?
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We have a few people outraged on an Apple forum, there's no public outcry. Millions of people who would have watched the show will shrug and watch something else that has Timmy's overlord's stamp of approval instead.

And what is the public outcry going to do? Is even one person going to cancel their TV+sub over this, much less switch away from Apple? Muting an information source on behalf of China should be a big deal, but nobody seems to care anymore.
 
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rgwebb said:
Really no putting the genie back into the bottle. We live in a global capital regime
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We do? In no way is China a “capital” or “capatalist” country, and the same can be said for many countries around the globe. The reality — and sheer corruption — is much worse.
 
I guarantee you it was the relationship between Apple and China which he was planning on treading near, as the article hints. Corporations espouse lofty principles and ethics publicly, but in the end capitalism and profits usually win out. Apple would rather lose a good show than get banned by China. Even though Jon is much more closely aligned with their old "Think Different" creed.
 
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Velin said:
We do? In no way is China a “capital” or “capatalist” country, and the same can be said for many countries around the globe. The reality — and sheer corruption — is much worse.
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China is definitely a capitalist country without liberalism and a greater degree of state control over the markets. There is no true free market in the world - thats an academic fantasy - but China's market is simply one with a more stringent regulatory apparatus.

The fact one's iPhone is from China is all one should need to know that China is operating under the capitalist model.
 
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Censor anything and everyone who disagrees with the elite corporate narrative. No criticism of Biden, no criticism of China, no criticism of Europe or Mexico, no criticism of COVID/where it came from/etc.
 
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Oh, that‘s too bad, about the only AppleTV+ Show I watched, kind of like a more serious brother to John Oliver‘s show. Not standing up to the attempt to ban a critical programme looks very very bad on a company with as much control over the media landscape as Apple has. And it drives home that China is becoming more and more powerful in Western country, which WILL become a thing sooner or later when/if they try to invade Taiwan.
 
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