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Why would anyone stick around with any of the streaming services?

1) Sign up
2) Binge watch
3) Cancel
4) On to the next one
5) Repeat when enough of your favorites have new seasons/content
A slightly better order: 1) sign up via itunes, 2) cancel, 3) watch.

Every single subscription I get I cancel the same day. Then you have 30 days to use it, and no chance of you forgetting.
 
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One of these streaming services should try a big discount eg ‘pay for 6 months upfront and get 12’.
 
Their biggest challenge here is that they're still really not churning out content quick enough, and I'm not sure they'll ever be able to without partnering with some other companies or services. The great thing about Netflix/Hulu is that when you're done with their exclusive shows, you can fall back on other well-known movies and shows, and continue getting value out of your subscription. A streaming service that ONLY has entirely new, exclusive/original shows, which you've likely never heard of, outside of maybe Ted Lasso and The Morning Show, is a really tough sell to the average person.

That being said, I think all of the shows I've watched on it are insanely high quality. The $5/mo. asking price is really reasonable, but also the lack of content lends itself to be easily cancelable when you're done watching what you want (likely why they only roll out one new episode per week for new seasons). In a few years it could be really great, and I think as such, Apple is treating it as a long-term investment. It's a nice supplemental service to have currently, but likely not anyones main go-to service.
 
Perhaps make better programming and people will stick around. Apple's shows have been really hit or miss. Mostly miss. The Ted Lassos are few and far between. I don't know anyone who subscribes to Apple as a streamer.
 
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I am actually getting worse value from Netflix now. Haven’t found anything on it worth watching since Witcher 2. Same with TV+ (last show was foundation). Currently catching up to Mandalorian, and I guess that’s the seasonal aspect of streaming services. There will be times when it’s chock full of content (which was the case with TV+ late last year, when there was 6 shows a week for me to follow up on), and there will be times of content drought.

I pay for a year of Disney+ at a time, while Apple is smart to bundle everything together as part of Apple One. Only Netflix is looking the most vulnerable, it seems.
 
Apple needs to buy another streaming service or massively invest in buying existing content while they beef up their existing library.
 
It’s because they have almost nothing to watch. I have a three month trial from when I bought my iPhone 13 and in that time I’ve watched basically everything they have that interests me. I’ll probably check back once a year for Ted Lasso and For All Mankind, but I just don’t see how hanging onto this subscription is a good use of my money.

Oh, and also, it’s easily one of the worst app interfaces. I had to turn on high contrast mode just to be able to reliably know what’s selected, and my eyesight is perfect. I genuinely doubt that someone with impaired vision could navigate it.
 
It's perhaps the poorest content-to-dollar service in existence, so...

I only have it because I have Apple One, and I hate that I'm counted as a subscriber of this weak effort by Apple.

Turn the Tv/Movie store into a streaming library, then we'll talk.
This seems like a lot of hate for a TV streaming service. I can name a dozen shows good enough to make it worth the sub. Sure Netflix has more content but most of us sub to multiple streaming services. It’s not a winner take all industry. I will give Netflix credit for their UI though. Apple doesn’t lose many UI battles, but it’s losing to Netflix in this case. Apples video player seems to always have the video info and mouse pointer up. Yes you can close it but I keep finding it active again. When I close my laptop mid show and open back up later, it’s not always at the same place. Shows don’t show up as Watched. Silly little things that Apple should be on top of. The content is good and growing. More importantly they are not canceling every show that is not Friends or at that level of popularity. I’m 100% fine with zero reruns. I don’t need 17 places to watch Seinfeld.

And if Apple could open the TV movie section of iTunes up to a Apple Music type sub then they would have built the Apple TV into a smart TV like we all wanted 10 years ago. The content is not owned by Apple and the people that have the rights won’t lease them because they all want them for their own streaming service.
 
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Antenna's data is aggregated from third-party apps that help users manage their email inboxes or stick to a monthly budget, and it includes information from a sample of five million U.S. users.

So it’s mostly just guesswork, and based on creepy privacy invasions to boot.
 
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I must be the outlier here, as I actually really like Apple TV+. I find the content to be more than worth my while compared to what Netflix keeps putting out there. To me Netflix is more filler, then thriller. Maybe if I had more free time to sit and just "browse" something to watch I would actually enjoy Netflix more.

My personal rankings are:

1. HBO Max
2. Apple TV+
3. Hulu
4. Disney
5. Amazon Prime Video
6. Peacock
7. Netlix
8. Paramount+
 
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It’s the new model, subscribe for a month or 2 or 3, watch the content you care about, cancel and move to the next one… and come back when new content is available
Live, Die, Repeat - I liked that movie …
 
Now, how does Antenna know this information? Is my question.

For me I like Apple+ and we are paying for a subscription.
From the article, sounds fishy to me…

“Antenna's data is aggregated from third-party apps that help users manage their email inboxes or stick to a monthly budget, and it includes information from a sample of five million U.S. users.”
 
I think a lot of people jump to a different ship on a regular basis or subscribe in short blocks to watch specific shows or movies, as is highlighted in the article. The other achilles heel for Apple is their small library which is rather anemic compared to Hulu and Netflix.
Every thread on multiple forums shows this way of scarfing up some good streaming content on the cheap and bailing. I think Apple + while offering most of its content in good video/audio streaming quality is easily compromised by the lack of older catalog library that could boost its usefulness for continuing subscribers. Advertising other content via other services channels is actually not helping them at all. Its like that is pushing dish/cable subscription's with premium channels. Thats old and tired.
 
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Apple tv was the worst sub and that was free.
HBO MOVIES are slim and geared for 18 year old Kids.
i have more 4star movies on my hard drive than them.
but we ned to realize there will be a lull over the sarscovid shutdown in 2020
that effected production of movies and tv shows this winter~spring months.
 
Best streaming service imo is HBO Max, which I pay less than US$ 3.00 / month for the top 4K plan (I'm not in USA).

I agree with this, and because I get AT&T's Fiber internet, I get it free of charge. It's a great deal, and Fringe just came out and I've been enjoying that series lately.
 
but we ned to realize there will be a lull over the sarscovid shutdown in 2020
that effected production of movies and tv shows this winter~spring months.
That's why Netflix is now full of foreign-language films and TV shows that are either dubbed in English or available with subtitles. Most are mediocre... but a number of them are excellent.
 
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How exactly is subscribing to multiple streaming services better than cable? It's becoming just as expensive and maybe more of a pain. You also generally get a cable discount when getting internet through them. As much as I hate Comcast, their streaming app is great and ability to use nearly 100% of the service on a ROKU is awesome.
Because you can sign up and cancel anytime. Usually I only sign up for a month of service when it has an original I want to watch and cancel immediately after.
 
Now that is a statement of yours I actually agree with… but don’t let it get to your head LOL
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Now young Skywalker. You will die."
- Darth Sidious, Ep. VI.
 
Their content is awful. Yeah, you can join, watch, and leave, but if they had any decent content, people would stay. I stay with Netflix because they continually provide new content I enjoy.
 
Obviously Apple, with its close to zero TV+ content refuses to see that Netflix and HBO offer full content for flatrate.
No renting, no purchases. I saw only one good thing on TV+, the Tehran. Ted Lasso is for different IQ...

Apple is steadily growing its Services division. It's a broad and deep ecosystem that keeps expanding not on the intent to take over the News or Streaming or Music or Books Industries, but to keep expanding over time. The Services slice of pie annually is approaching $60-$70 billion alone. In five years revisit yourself on this comment and either you defend it or acknowledge you have no clue how much Apple will evolve all of its Services offerings. HBO has to concentrate on just making content. Apple is developing and delivering end-to-end across their entire expanding ecosystems said content.

And Apple makes money off of other producers content they rent or purchase. There are third party relationships involved.
 
There's just too many streaming services with content fragmented across the internet to the point where it's just not worth the cost of trying something new. At this point, I'm close to whittling down my streaming service to just HBO Max. I have Amazon Prime, but never watch it, and I can find nothing of value on Netflix. My wife keeps bugging me to watch Ozark, so I keep it on the hook for now, but we still haven't started the series.
That was one of my New Year's resolutions. I let my Showtime and Hulu subscriptions lapse. I'd probably drop HBO Max if it weren't only $5 as part of my DirecTV Stream bundle. Decent value for a pretty broad, deep selection.

I watch a lot of PBS, so I'm keeping my Passport subscription.

I bought an iPhone in July and got a year of free Apple TV+. Haven't watched it once. I also never watched it when I had three free months via my Variety subscription.
 
I agree with this, and because I get AT&T's Fiber internet, I get it free of charge. It's a great deal, and Fringe just came out and I've been enjoying that series lately.
Yes! HBO Max has an amazing and unparalleled library, including classics like Ben-Hur (1959) and Gone with the Wind (1939), the Rome series (2005), the Chernobyl series, the complete Harry Potter 8-film collection, lots of cartoons like the Batman Animated Series and the DC Universe Animated Original Movies. An unmatched collection of movies, series and cartoons.
 
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