Name one business that DOESN'T sell your information for their benefit or profit? Advertising, as much as we hate it, is part of any business model. Dontt want to be targeted with ads? Dontt use the internet. By the way, how did you get away from actual paper junk mail in your mailbox? The companies that send you unsolicited ads in the mail have your information too.The Sad thing the VPN providers sell your location so they can advertise .
that's an interesting point, although plenty of Android / Google TV boxes do support browsers, and I don't hear people talking about their cheap Google TV PCs. maybe the difference is the Apple TV version would actually be goodHighly doubt your explanation is the reason Apple limits or prohibits a web browser.
With a web browser on AppleTV one can surf the web, email, online office or google docs, login into a remote computer, etc.
Apple does not want the end-user to have an affordable computer with AppleTV. MacMini or iPad is for you.
Here's an example guide from ExpressVPN about how to set up your router so all your home traffic goes through a VPN.Wow, interesting. If you don’t mind answering I’d be really interested to understand the following:
1. Why are you doing this? What risks are you mitigating?
2. How do you achieve this technologically across all these devices?
The Apple TV today supports a BT keyboard - not sure if it supports a mouse at the same time or not. But KB + remote work together today.I feel it's more about the user interface / interaction. A touchpad cursor could work, but because it's so small I can see it becoming tedious.
Apple usually would rather you not do something than do something badly. If the Nintendo Wii was any indication of how on TV web browsing is, then we don't want it.I feel it's more about the user interface / interaction. A touchpad cursor could work, but because it's so small I can see it becoming tedious.
To answer your first question - Proton?Name one business that DOESN'T sell your information for their benefit or profit? Advertising, as much as we hate it, is part of any business model. Dontt want to be targeted with ads? Dontt use the internet. By the way, how did you get away from actual paper junk mail in your mailbox? The companies that send you unsolicited ads in the mail have your information too.
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It's not a perfect solution but I appreciate their transparency about what they do with the little information they have about who I am. TBH, I feel better about them knowing a little bit about me and actively keeping that info secure than FB knowing everything about me and trying to sell it to the highest bidder.
MLB will still catch you and you will be banned from signing up again, at least that is what I have heardI hope an Apple doesn’t restrict it. If they TRUELY care about privacy, then they’d allow VPN to work no matter what.
If they restrict it, it means they’re buddying up with the entertainment business, instead of caring about users, and that’s bad news and the wrong direction Apple should go.
For me personally, I’ll use it to watch Tampa Bay Ray games here in Orlando on MLB.tv. Since I don’t have live TV, there’s no way for me to watch it, and MLB.tv blacks it out cause they are greedy.
YES! (Pun intended.)Finally! I can finally watch the Yankees
Are you routing to the same city or area that you’re in?
Other than latency, the only other frustration with VPN is having search results that aren’t relevant to your location.
What's the point, out of curiosity? When I go to Amazon.com, why would I want all my traffic to go through some server somewhere in the US or other country instead of direct?Router VPN is the future. Nothing in my house ever gets access to the web without going through a VPN. Nothing. Apple TV included. This is welcome, though, and obviously the only option if your router doesn’t support VPN profiles.
Why?Why can’t Apple TV run Safari?
I sincerely hope you are not using their VPN.Google one is awesome! Best deal on the Internet.
Nope. This used to be true, but ExpressVPN was bought out by a data mining company. Snowden said to avoid them after this took place. They are complete and utter garbage and I can't recommend them anymore. You should switch to NordVPN or MullvadVPN. NordVPN has been audited for years to show they don't have any user data retention. MullvadVPN was recently raided and had zero user data to cough up. The more secure of these two is Mullvad, but the speeds are slower.Name one business that DOESN'T sell your information for their benefit or profit? Advertising, as much as we hate it, is part of any business model. Dontt want to be targeted with ads? Dontt use the internet. By the way, how did you get away from actual paper junk mail in your mailbox? The companies that send you unsolicited ads in the mail have your information too.
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It's not a perfect solution but I appreciate their transparency about what they do with the little information they have about who I am. TBH, I feel better about them knowing a little bit about me and actively keeping that info secure than FB knowing everything about me and trying to sell it to the highest bidder.
FYI - Unlocator smart DNS already works to let you get around the MLB.tv geo-blackouts.Finally! I can finally watch the Yankees
Wont work. MLB uses more than just IP for location identification. They use Apple's logic which has some sort of black magic that knows Im not in Chicago even though my router has a VPN client set up to protect it's traffic.Finally! I can finally watch the Yankees
HBO (Max barf) gives an error on my Apple TV when I have the router VPN turned on.Router VPN is the future. Nothing in my house ever gets access to the web without going through a VPN. Nothing. Apple TV included. This is welcome, though, and obviously the only option if your router doesn’t support VPN profiles.
You can just create an account from another country and add it to the Apple TV. Switch users to install the app and then switch back to yours. I do this for a UK and Canada store.This is interesting, however it would probably not allow Americans to sideload anything. I’ll keep using my Amazon Fire TV with the NordVPN & BBC iPlayer apps.
Interesting. I knew they were bought out a while back but I guess I never heard or looked into the details.Nope. This used to be true, but ExpressVPN was bought out by a data mining company. Snowden said to avoid them after this took place. They are complete and utter garbage and I can't recommend them anymore. You should switch to NordVPN or MullvadVPN. NordVPN has been audited for years to show they don't have any user data retention. MullvadVPN was recently raided and had zero user data to cough up. The more secure of these two is Mullvad, but the speeds are slower.
Some people have a bad taste from Nord when they were hacked and didn't let anyone know until later, but the hack didn't reveal anyone's data for the very reason they have a zero logs policy. Nothing can be tied to anyone with how their infrastructure is set up. But some people don't trust them anymore. I still don't have a problem with them. But I may go Mullvad for a while to support the smaller company.