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Apple missed. I don't think they have a clue about the "home" market. I don't know if it's their incomes or lifestyles or both but they just have not made good decisions on the home since their first idea of using the iMac as a hub for music and photos.

Since then they have screwed up iPhoto and iTunes. They missed the idea of connecting your cell phone address book to land line (Ooma) and have now misfired on HomeKit integration.

The entry into the market should have been Apple TV, not "music." Most people already have enough speakers or they are doing other things while music is playing and are not looking for audio perfection.

Echo works great. Love that I can change the activate word to "computer." With no echo phone, having a separate system for home is probably best at this point.
Man, I miss Jobs....
 
I don't know about anyone else but I actually got a Google home a few months ago and I can say that it sounds amazing and cost half the price. Also Google assistant blows siri away. So did apple think your average Joe was going to think it's worth hundreds more for "better speakers"?
 
I wonder if Airplay 2 will be compatible with the current Airplay. I have 6 Airplay stations setup now. Also, why do you suppose this speaker won't be available until the end of the year? That's a long way away.
 
The name HomePod is hardly original but the price really is. The Sonos Play 1 is $199 and no slouch. The Echo is $179. I could see $250, even $279 maybe. $349 makes no sense as a whole home speaker. If you can afford to outfit your home with these you can afford to outfit your home with a much slicker whole home A/V system.

This may have worked if there was a product tier like the Echo. As-is it's looks like the 2017 iPod HiFi. Disappointing. I would have loved to have seen (and bought) a kit that included one master speaker, maybe a Jr. and then 4 to 6 Dot-like satellites for $499. I think Apple could have sold that.

The HomePod may have sold well pre-Echo, but I can't see people paying $349 when they can buy into the Alexa system for a lot less and pretty much same functionality sans maybe security and, of course, HomeKit support.
 
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I'm sure it's a great product but this BS about a tiny little 7 inch speaker being able to handle music like huge cabinet speakers with subwoofers that are bigger than the Homepod ALONE... is just that... BS.
The deal is the many consumers don't care. My wife is manager st Best Buy and their best selling speakers are soundbars. They stand in front of the sound bars and it sounds great. Of course it does. It's more than the crappy little built in tv speaker they'd been listening to. It's easy to slap in front of the tv or even on the wall. Required just one cable. SOLD!!!!

We have a 7.1 klispche reference set up and even SHE was trying to sell me on a sound bar. I'd maybe have considered that before wiring everything through the walls properly just for convenience alone. But nah. It's not going to give the same experience as a true 5.1/7.1 setup would. Im sure it sounds great for what it is though.
 
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Quick everyone tweet Amazon to take advantage of MusicKit and add Apple music functionality to the Echo so we can all save $220 :p

Why, if the echo sounds like S**T, why buy it? I guess the majority of people don't care about sound quality.
I am in fact looking forward to hearing the HomePod, if it truly sounds good, I could find a "home" for it.
 
These are probably marked up $60 speakers. For $350 I'd rather get something like a $285 pair of JBL LSR305 pro studio monitors and a $30 Chromecast Audio. Add an optional Google Home and you have the ultimate experience.
 
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$350 will barely get you a decent set of proper speakers much less an quasi-intelligent one. Assuming they are hitting the Sonos market buyers and not the cheap, $100 Bluetooth crowd.

I have a Sonos Play 1 in my kitchen and will upgrade in a heartbeat if voice commands work as advertised; it's a massive pain in the arse to have to fiddle with the Sonos app to play music (interface sucks, etc.) when you are cooking...
 
Siri voice recognition is as good as Newton writing recognition.

Smart speakers cost 60$ and decent wifi speakers 200$.

I've never heard anything for $200 producing sound that I would call in any way decent. For headphones, yes. For speakers, absolutely f***ing no. Get your ears examined.
 
Bet this won't be a hit like the AirPods..... can't keep those in stock after 6 months
My anectodal evidence is anecdotal but I've still only seen three AirPods my entire life. I don't know if they just aren't making that many, people aren't using them much in public, or what. For every AirPod I see I easily see a few thousand iPhones though lol.

Anyway just an observation.
 
Bet this won't be a hit like the AirPods..... can't keep those in stock after 6 months

I have a pair of AirPods and love them. But no one here can make a correlation between the product and availability. We don't know actual demand (placed orders). We don't Apple's production capability including parts supply constraints, or if Apple is simply limited production for unspecified reasons. Recall initial release was delayed because of production issues.
 
I thought the Amazon Echo

Anyone who thinks Amazon Echo is even close to being over priced is frankly delusional. They'd have to charge next to nothing for those prices to look unreasonable. They practically give the Echo Dot away, and the full Echo really isn't expensive for what you're getting.
 
Yeah, so I can get an Echo Dot for $50 and use it with whatever speakers I want (and already have), and add Echo-only Amazon Music Unlimited for $3.99... or this thing. Disappointing.
 
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Why, if the echo sounds like S**T, why buy it?
I guess the majority of people don't care about sound quality.
I am in fact looking forward to hearing the HomePod, if it truly sounds good, I could find a "home" for it.
Let me borrow that crystal ball of yours that shows the comparisons between the two speakers sound quality wise :rolleyes:. My Old roommate owned an Echo for our last apartment, and the sound quality was actually solid for what you're paying for.
 
I don't know about anyone else but I actually got a Google home a few months ago and I can say that it sounds amazing and cost half the price. Also Google assistant blows siri away. So did apple think your average Joe was going to think it's worth hundreds more for "better speakers"?

This may very well sound better then the Google Home, but you're right when you say Google's assistant blows Siri away. Plus this thing is $350 and limits you to only use Apple Music. Sonos, Bose, etc. all provide the option of using many different music services.

Decide you don't like Apple Music? You now have a $350 brick.
 
I still don't understand why they couldn't give it an Ethernet jack and make it also be an AirPort replacement.

Or why they don't do that with the AppleTV.
 
Let me borrow that crystal ball of yours that shows the comparisons between the two speakers sound quality wise :rolleyes:. My Old roommate owned an Echo for our last apartment, and the sound quality was actually solid for what you're paying for.

Your perspective on sound quality may be different than mine.
We'll see how the homepod sounds come December.
 
Why would anyone need to connect a Sonos and Echo, it's really duplicating nearly all functions. And echo and a powered speaker is the comparison
It would be more like a Sonos and an Echo Dot. Soon you will be able to control your Sonos equipment with the Echo. This will just have it all in one if the audio quality is there.
 
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