This! I could care less about a overpriced laptop. I've never owned a Mac and would be interested in a more affordable Mac Mini to compliment my custom built gaming rig just to play around with. Just to experience Mac OS.
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Apple Unveils New 13-Inch and 15-Inch MacBook Pros With Retina 'Touch Bar'
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This! I could care less about a overpriced laptop. I've never owned a Mac and would be interested in a more affordable Mac Mini to compliment my custom built gaming rig just to play around with. Just to experience Mac OS.
Cool technology, but I can't justify purchasing it, because of no SD card slot, and all USB-C. Someday the latter will likely not be an issue, but the former is probably always going to be troublesome for me.
I'm fine with this lineup, except they really should have also made a 15" model with no Touch Bar for $1999. It would probably sell a ton... At least, that's the model that I would buy if it existed. I'm just put off that the cheapest 15" option has gone back up to $2399.
Also cool that they worked with LG on a 5K display. I guess they are done with their own standalone displays for now.
NOW WHERE ARE THE DAMN DESKTOP UPDATES
Also cool that they worked with LG on a 5K display. I guess they are done with their own standalone displays for now.
NOW WHERE ARE THE DAMN DESKTOP UPDATES
Would've preferred a touch screen tbh. I'm glad to have a previous gen iPhone and mbp for one key reason though; I can just carry one set of earphones that works with both devices. No lightning port on these means you can't use the new lightning earphones with them?
It's not just the highlight - it's the whole show.
For years we got new features at the same price points as before (it was called technological progress). But now Apple wants to make us believe that we have to pay more for each new feature (iMac Retina, iPad Pro 9.7, MacBook Pro with Touch Bar) :-(
Fail indeed. Right now the cable situation is a nightmare with lightning, USB c, USB and thunderbolt.Imagine buying a new MacBook Pro and not being able to set your iPhone 7 up via iTunes because it has no USB ports any more
I think they're on the right track though. Just they need to bring new iMacs and mac pros, all just with USB C, and change lightning to USB c as well next year and just pack USB c cables into every iOS device they ship.
This port switch is going to be long and brutal..Everybody is still hugging on to the old USB. Idk how long it's going to take for the world to make the switch to the new usb standard. Let's think about
It looks like you have 4 "overpriced" computers (including your phone) from Apple...
Totally agree, but MS is including touch screens with active digitizers. I feel Apple has stopped innovating. Why no touch screens? We have touch strips. Wow! So cutting edge.
So you've obviously never priced a PCIe SSD.
Um, read the comments. No one is hating on the ports (well besides the audio port guys) People are pissed about that price.
And the fact that even I'm complaining about prices should tell you something.
$2800 for a 15" notebook with a crappy GPU, no useful ports and a gimmicky touch bar. $2800. And that's without upgrading anything.
They are out of their minds.
They are out of their minds.
For all the touchscreen loving folks out there. Please buy my Dell XPS13! What a joke. I've never even touched the screen on purpose.
So the Touch Bar seems less gimmicky than I thought it would be. They really seem to have put in a lot of work thinking through how it could actually benefit the experience of using the Mac across a wide range of users and applications. It's quite tempting, but most of my work on the Mac is done during the day on my work iMac. I hope in the next year they ship an external keyboard like this with new iMacs, as well as making them available for sale separately, even if they are kind of expensive. I also love the idea of having TouchID built into the system. My wife shares my rMBP at home and it would be really neat to have user switching be that easy. I also use a really strong password to secure my system, so it would be nice to be able to quickly wake it up with a finger print.
Those performance numbers seem out of line with what Intel has released. Are most of those performance increases from offloading to the graphics card using Open CL, such as in video editing?
It was disappointing to see them pushing displays from LG. I mean really? That seems like such an un-Apple way to do things. The main reason I want to upgrade my machine is to run an external 4K or 5K display. The graphics capabilities in this machine are great, but does that really make it worth it? Same goes for the Flash storage. After decades of using spinning drives, I was amazed to go from around 100MB/s to 550MB/s. My apps still open in a matter of seconds—even though my rMBP is now over four years old. So 3.1GB/s doesn't really mean much to me, although it might when I finally upgrade my camera to one of the newer 42-50MP models. And I hope they have dropped the prices on their SSDs which are wildly expensive for the capacity you get. I hate having to plug an external drive into my rMBP all the time for my Lightroom catalog. The drive is a portable RAID 0 device (don't worry, I keep backups on another drive), and while it works well, it drains the battery quickly and gets very hot.
I really wish they could figure out how to put a quad-core i7 into the 13" model. I really love the footprint of that and feel like I would use it more. Ideally I'd love a more powerful 12" or 13" MBP, even if it's a little thicker, and couple that with a 5K iMac. Although I would also consider an iPad Pro + 5K iMac. Speaking of which, where is the iPad Pro? Is it dead already?
Those performance numbers seem out of line with what Intel has released. Are most of those performance increases from offloading to the graphics card using Open CL, such as in video editing?
It was disappointing to see them pushing displays from LG. I mean really? That seems like such an un-Apple way to do things. The main reason I want to upgrade my machine is to run an external 4K or 5K display. The graphics capabilities in this machine are great, but does that really make it worth it? Same goes for the Flash storage. After decades of using spinning drives, I was amazed to go from around 100MB/s to 550MB/s. My apps still open in a matter of seconds—even though my rMBP is now over four years old. So 3.1GB/s doesn't really mean much to me, although it might when I finally upgrade my camera to one of the newer 42-50MP models. And I hope they have dropped the prices on their SSDs which are wildly expensive for the capacity you get. I hate having to plug an external drive into my rMBP all the time for my Lightroom catalog. The drive is a portable RAID 0 device (don't worry, I keep backups on another drive), and while it works well, it drains the battery quickly and gets very hot.
I really wish they could figure out how to put a quad-core i7 into the 13" model. I really love the footprint of that and feel like I would use it more. Ideally I'd love a more powerful 12" or 13" MBP, even if it's a little thicker, and couple that with a 5K iMac. Although I would also consider an iPad Pro + 5K iMac. Speaking of which, where is the iPad Pro? Is it dead already?
Well, I do, and I wouldn't by a dell. I got the surface 4 for photo editing last year, when Apple didn't do anything with the iMac, and it works great. My Mac has been demoted to a media server. I will probably be getting that Surface Studio (that's that I was hoping Apple would do with the iMac) with that dial next. Thanks Apple.
Ok, just went to the store to spec one out. No way I'm buying this thing.
First of all, I get that the RAM isn't user replaceable. That's a tradeoff I'm willing to live with and have lived with for the past 4+ years. HOWEVER, I don't understand why there is no upgrade option. I selected the high-end 15" model. It comes with 16GB RAM. There is no option to select 32GB. WHY? It's almost 2017. This machine would have to last me at least another four years of doing professional work. They really dropped the ball with that one when it comes to professional users. My rMBP from June 2012 has 16GB RAM! What the heck are they doing!? $3499 for a machine with 16GB of RAM. Or $2499 for a 13" model that cost just a little less than my mid-2012 15" model but is slower with the same memory and storage capacity. This is so weird. Now I know where that weird feeling came from before the event. I was just wrong about it being a "good" weird feeling.
First of all, I get that the RAM isn't user replaceable. That's a tradeoff I'm willing to live with and have lived with for the past 4+ years. HOWEVER, I don't understand why there is no upgrade option. I selected the high-end 15" model. It comes with 16GB RAM. There is no option to select 32GB. WHY? It's almost 2017. This machine would have to last me at least another four years of doing professional work. They really dropped the ball with that one when it comes to professional users. My rMBP from June 2012 has 16GB RAM! What the heck are they doing!? $3499 for a machine with 16GB of RAM. Or $2499 for a 13" model that cost just a little less than my mid-2012 15" model but is slower with the same memory and storage capacity. This is so weird. Now I know where that weird feeling came from before the event. I was just wrong about it being a "good" weird feeling.
Seriously, I can't speak on behalf of every professional out there but that touch bar is not going to be widely used. I mean, look at text formatting (and I know it's just another example) but why would I take my fingers off the keys to press that instead of just cmd+b or cmd+u or whatever else I want to press.
In this instance, the touch bar is great for a novice who doesn't know the shortcuts. The novices who buy professional machines.
With these prices I will never own a Mac. Not that I can't afford it but because I really don't need to spend so much on something that I ultimately don't need. I went through this when I bought my iPad Air 2; nice to have but I don't need it.
13"
£1249
£1449
£1749
£1949
15"
£1899
£2349
£2699
And thats before you start customising stuff!
Say you want a 1TB SSD in your 15" Pro well thats gonna set you back £3239 and if you want to upgrade that 2GB graphics card to 4GB add another £100.
£1249
£1449
£1749
£1949
15"
£1899
£2349
£2699
And thats before you start customising stuff!
Say you want a 1TB SSD in your 15" Pro well thats gonna set you back £3239 and if you want to upgrade that 2GB graphics card to 4GB add another £100.