Apple Unveils New 13-Inch and 15-Inch MacBook Pros With Retina 'Touch Bar'

[td234]

Just order mine.

What are best solutions for a monitor. The 27" on Apple.com is $1,299. I guess my old Apple 27" with Display Port will work, but would like one that charges my laptop to not have to use the supplied charger.

 

[kildraik]

I do not see the justification for a base model price increase.

 

[Ron21]

Way overpriced! Lately, it seems like Apple is attempting to cover up slowing sales by raising prices..

Super disappointed.

 

[AppleMad98004]

I used to rail hard on Apple for non-upgradeability, but the truth is the industry isn't moving as fast as it used to.

You used to buy, for example, a Powerbook with 128MB of RAM, and in a few years, RAM would become more affordable and you would upgrade it to 1GB. It was a huge difference.

Nowadays, RAM is cheap; it doesn't cost much to max out the machine. Typical memory sizes aren't increasing as fast as they used to, so the need to upgrade RAM in 2-3 years won't be as strong as it was in 2003. So being un-upgradeable is NOT a huge deal. For example, 2013 Macbook Pro 13" still feels like a very capable machine without any upgrades.

Now, one thing that is still a big deal is the non-user-replaceable battery. We tend to keep computers a lot longer than phones, so not having a replaceable battery will be a huge pain eventually.

I agree about the RAM but the issue is why not offer a build for example 32gb to "future proof" the device. Why stick to only 16GB from the start. When I said upgradable I meant during the build. Also the battery is the bigger issue. Eventually it will wear out far faster than anything else.

 

[kidaje]

Just order mine.

What are best solutions for a monitor. The 27" on Apple.com is $1,299. I guess my old Apple 27" with Display Port will work, but would like one that charges my laptop to not have to use the supplied charger.

you're kidding right?

 

[bonehead]

Touchpad is too large (nowhere to rest palms while typing). Magic Toolbar is silly. I/O ports far too limited. No MagSafe. No standard audio jack!?! An excessively compromised and overpriced release. Cannot fathom what Apple was thinking.

There is a standard audio jack.

 

[calzon65]

This is absolute crap!!!!

Apple removes the 3.5mm jack from the iPhone 7 forcing the use of wireless or the Lightning port connected headphones (or the use of some stupid Lighting to 3.5mm converter).

So then consumers go out and purchase Lighting connected headphones and now the arrogant idiots release the new MacBook WITH a 3.5mm audio jack and NO Lighting connector.

Apple just finished telling everyone last month that the 3.5mm jack is a horrible outdated technology and we all should run out and purchase wireless or Lighting connected headphones.

 

[tkatz]

Yeah.... Touch bar isn't gonna be a time saver

You'll have to take your eyes of the screen so often to look down at it that it's less efficient.

I'm actually a little bummed about it to be honest.

Completely agree. For many of the demos of the Touch bar I was thinking to myself about how much it would slow me down having to look down at the keyboard. The offset "Esc" button looks annoying as well. Gonna suck in vi.

If I recall, Lenovo tried something similar a couple years ago and it wasn't well received. Guess we'll see how it goes with Apple.

I'm also not happy Apple is sticking with ATI. OpenCL support in the apps I use is generally lacking or behind CUDA. Windows drivers (for when I'm in Bootcamp) suck and haven't been updated in months. The ATI cards are the worst part of my Mac Pro.

 

[stacee]

I'm mortified and angry. After so long, we get an emoji bar and bigass bezels on same old Macbooks but nothing about Mac Pros or iMacs. This is nothing, Apple!

 

[psingh01]

how much do the necessary dongles cost?

 

[frifra]

...up to 2.3 times the graphics performance" of the previous generation.

...are released almost 2 years after the previous genereation.

 

[neoelectronaut]

Did the old Macbook Airs get a price drop? I don't remember what they were before.

 

[jonblatho]

People who use computers for work.

Yeah, I've yet to imagine a circumstance under which I'd feel good using Xcode on a 27" touchscreen.

My arms become sore just thinking about it.

 

[swester]

I'm mortified and angry. After so long, we get an emoji bar and bigass bezels on same old Macbooks but nothing about Mac Pros or iMacs. This is nothing, Apple!

No one said they were going to announce anything from the desktop lineup, not sure why you are "mortified and angry."

 

[v0lume4]

Apple is slowly prepping us for what's to come, much like they did with the "fake" home button on the iPhone 7.

 

[maflynn]

Loss of the SD ports, and magsafe, plus the price increase means that I'll not be looking at MBPs

 

[bobdobalina]

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[alexandero]

While a majority of countries globally are in an ongoing recession since 2009, Apple introduces a Touch Bar that drastically increases prices. That does not feel like a smart move at all.

 

[jonblatho]

There is a standard audio jack.

Shh, FUD matters more than facts!

 

[iDonnie]

 

[mattysouthall]

How do you turn it on? I guess the touch bar is switched off when its off, so where is the power button now?

 

[jonblatho]

I'm mortified and angry. After so long, we get an emoji bar and bigass bezels on same old Macbooks but nothing about Mac Pros or iMacs. This is nothing, Apple!

Second person to slam the Touch Bar as an "emoji bar" despite it being shown as so many things other than that.

Hmm…

 

[bobdobalina]

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[alexandero]

Did the old Macbook Airs get a price drop? I don't remember what they were before.

Unfortunately they have been kept at the same price.

 

[ghost187]

UGH, they killed off the only laptop with TRUE (12 Hour) ALL DAY BATTERY!

At the end I almost thought they were going to drop the price of the MacBook to $999. Nope!

Overall, nice MacBook Pro's but don't neglect everyone else Apple.