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Apple Unveils New 13-Inch and 15-Inch MacBook Pros With Retina 'Touch Bar'
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Very very cool that touch bar
The ironic thing is, the Mac trackpad works so well that it really doesn't need it. Windows laptops with the typically horrible trackpad can really use this. There probably will be Windows laptops that will copy it. The trouble with that is since no one but Microsoft has complete control, it's not going to be tightly integrated like on the Macbook. It'll be like duck taped on
Windows does not need this. They have something called "Touch display"....
That's what I was going to write. PCIe SSDs with these specs are $630 for 1 TB and $330 for 512 GB (and they aren't released yet). Apple charges $200 more for the bump from 256 to 512, which is fairly reasonable. From 256 to 1 TB is $600. That's also fairly reasonable. Yes, it's expensive but if you really need to store a lot of data, buy an external drive or use cloud storage.
People complain about overpriced Macs but they've always come at a premium. With that premium you get a phenomenally designed computer that is slim, light, and powerful. You also get great included software and good customer support. Additionally your computer has slower depreciation in value, which means it has high resale value. I've priced out a lot of PCs and Macs over the years and, factoring in resale, it's almost always better to buy a Mac than a computer running Windows (unless you can get by with $300 Windows computers [assuming they work and are usable for a few years]).
Additional note: the original Mac was $2500, which is $5800 in 2016 dollars. These new computers are quite a bargain in light of that.
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I am a psychologist so it does tell me something. ;-)
Audio Ports!?! F'n Hell Apple. Now I have to carry one set of lightning headphones for my iPhone7 and a separate pair of analog or usbC headphones just for my mac?! Such a fail!
The fail was removing the headphone jack from the phone.
i think the lack of magsafe and usb 3.0 really kills it for me. sigh, even pro devices require adapters galore
I feel like Apple is jacking up the prices to just kill off demand.
I think Apple saw the prices that Microsoft revealed yesterday for the Microsoft Studio and said we need to price ours higher.
The new Emoji Bar is an ergonomic and efficiency NIGHTMARE!
WHY HASNT ANYONE NOTICED THE MISSING GLOWING APPLE LOGO?!?!
I was a bit worried about this as the Retina Macbook dont have the logo as well...
I was a bit worried about this as the Retina Macbook dont have the logo as well...
I just priced a pro machine out.... Wow...Way too much money for a non upgradable machine. BTW these are the machines we will have around for the next 7 years if the past is any indication.
These will be the MacBook Pro's we have in 2021 with 2019 tech inside
I used to rail hard on Apple for non-upgradeability, but the truth is the industry isn't moving as fast as it used to.
You used to buy, for example, a Powerbook with 128MB of RAM, and in a few years, RAM would become more affordable and you would upgrade it to 1GB. It was a huge difference.
Nowadays, RAM is cheap; it doesn't cost much to max out the machine. Typical memory sizes aren't increasing as fast as they used to, so the need to upgrade RAM in 2-3 years won't be as strong as it was in 2003. So being un-upgradeable is NOT a huge deal. For example, 2013 Macbook Pro 13" still feels like a very capable machine without any upgrades.
Now, one thing that is still a big deal is the non-user-replaceable battery. We tend to keep computers a lot longer than phones, so not having a replaceable battery will be a huge pain eventually.
Touchpad is too large (nowhere to rest palms while typing). Magic Toolbar is silly. I/O ports far too limited. No MagSafe. An excessively compromised and overpriced release. Cannot fathom what Apple was thinking.
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I think they need to stop using the word "PRO", and start using works like "MOBILE" or "ABOUT TOWN" or "NOT THE FASTEST" or "PRETTY GOOD"
Presenting the all new "MacBook Pretty Good!"
Presenting the all new "MacBook Pretty Good!"
What a wasted opportunity. For a device aimed at creative professionals it still has a 16GB RAM limit. Dell, Lenovo and HP all manage 32GB in their lightweight models and 64GB in the larger models. Skylake supports 64GB, why don't Apple have this as an option?
And if that keyboard has the same feel as the one on the MacBook, then it's a definite 'no'.
And if that keyboard has the same feel as the one on the MacBook, then it's a definite 'no'.
The low end model with the touch bar is a full $500 more than I expected. If I were in the market for one I'd be furious.
Very very cool that touch bar
The ironic thing is, the Mac trackpad works so well that it really doesn't need it. Windows laptops with the typically horrible trackpad can really use this. There probably will be Windows laptops that will copy it. The trouble with that is since no one but Microsoft has complete control, it's not going to be tightly integrated like on the Macbook. It'll be like duck taped on
Trackpads on Windows laptops truly are terrible. I even have a $1500+ windows laptop for work and it's trackpad feels like crap compared to my Mac. Don't know how useful the touchbar will be; will have to play with it to see. Overall seems neat though.
I'd rather have a surface pro!
Well, been using Apple laptops since the original Titanium PowerBook. Looks like an XPS 13 is in my future.
$1,800 for the "lowest end" 13" MacBook Pro?
Am I the only one who thinks this is a ridiculous "starting price"?
When I bought the MacBook Pro I'm typing on now, -- 2010 13" base model -- it cost $1,050. Not cheap, but reasonable.
Historically, it seemed that Apple's policy regarding new MacBooks was to "add some features", but keep pricing relatively constant. Yes, prices crept up now and then, but still....
.... $1,800 just to get the base model 13" MacBook Pro?
I'll keep using my trusty 2010 model for now. It's still running fine with an upgraded SSD.
If it needs to be replaced, I'll pick up a 2015 MBPro from the Apple refurb store.
At least that's a laptop that will actually represent value for dollars spent...
Am I the only one who thinks this is a ridiculous "starting price"?
When I bought the MacBook Pro I'm typing on now, -- 2010 13" base model -- it cost $1,050. Not cheap, but reasonable.
Historically, it seemed that Apple's policy regarding new MacBooks was to "add some features", but keep pricing relatively constant. Yes, prices crept up now and then, but still....
.... $1,800 just to get the base model 13" MacBook Pro?
I'll keep using my trusty 2010 model for now. It's still running fine with an upgraded SSD.
If it needs to be replaced, I'll pick up a 2015 MBPro from the Apple refurb store.
At least that's a laptop that will actually represent value for dollars spent...
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So much applause during the event. And then crickets when they announced the prices.