It’s the same display so I guess the answer is a big fat no!Let me know if they fixed the "jelly scroll".
It’s the same display so I guess the answer is a big fat no!Let me know if they fixed the "jelly scroll".
Trade in for my perfect condition v1 iPad Air lists as zero, "we will recycle it for you for free..."They’re definitely not taking storage into account on trade value then, I’m getting the same for my 64GB Mini 6
The AVP is an expensive tool, not a ubiquitous, inexpensive entertainment, etc. device.Which sounds like about 70,000 more people than are using the Vision Pro
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Untrue. FromApple's website:The craziest spec change no one seems to have picked on is that it's no longer compatible with Pencil 2, only Pencil Pro.
To my knowledge, the A17 Pro and M3 chips are related, so it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that another iPad Mini launches next year with an updated chip, like Apple is doing with all the M3 Macs. I was very surprised to see a new device using A17 Pro. I wonder how long they plan to manufacture that chip.Maybe they will update the iPad mini again at MBP event. This update is a joke!
Apple Pencil (USB-C) is not the same as Apple Pencil (2nd Generation). The Apple Pencil (2nd Generation) doesn’t have a USB-C connector. It wirelessly charges magnetically on the side of the iPad. Apple Pencil (2nd Generation) isn’t on that list you shared, so I don’t think you’re making the point you’re trying to make.Untrue. FromApple's website:
- Supports Apple Pencil Pro
- Supports Apple Pencil (USB‑C)
So does the 6th gen mini (albeit at 30Hz - if I’m not mistaken aligns with its limited 5Gbps USB bandwidth).Per Apple:
- Supports one external display with up to 4K resolution at 60Hz
So have they actually REMOVED support for the Pencil 2? That seems really disrespectful to Mini 6 owners (many I assume who will have bought a Pencil 2). Is Pencil 2 support something that could be added with a software update, or is it a permanent hardware issue?
I was about to place a preorder for the Mini 7, but this would be a deal breaker - I'm not about to buy a new pencil too.
The Pencil 2 was replaced by the Pencil Pro (you can think of it essentially as the Pencil 3) quicker than the Pencil 1 was replaced by Pencil 2*, because of the larger iPads’ switch to landscape camera, which everybody clamored for. The new camera location made the iPads incompatible with the Pencil 2 for charging/sync so Apple had to introduce a new flagship Pencil. Apple still sells the Pencil 2 for older/preexisting iPads, just as they still sell the Pencil 1 for the same reason, but in order to move away from the legacy Pencils, Apple has to make all new iPads (except standard iPad which only uses the lower tier USBC Pencil) compatible with Pencil Pro, which because of conflicting hardware means they can’t be compatible with older Pencils. As another user said, this will upset people who have older devices, but not doing this would upset people with newer devices. But this is always what happens during these transitions from legacy tech.I’ve been thinking of buying a mini for a couple of months, and thought I’d wait for the 7 to come out. I have a 13’ iPad Pro which I work from every day in the office (I work in publishing and audio production) but the 13’ pro is like a laptop to carry around. I really liked the size of the mini just for reading in bed with, travelling with when all I really need it to do is check emails, access iCloud files and do invoicing / web browsing and it can get thrown in my back pocket without having to bring a backback around with me.
I can get a mini 6 now for slightly less, maybe £350 (plus I get the vat knocked off) But probably going to go for the 7. The extra gb hard drive size is worth the saving on an older 6 along with the upgraded chip. I will get education discount plus vat knocked off which brings it down to around £380 for me so comparable to a 6 which wouldn’t get education discount on.
However the big bugbear - no pencil 2 support! WTH? My 13’ pro uses a pencil 2 and I was hoping to use it interchangeably. That really sucks. As does stage manager for zooming and Face ID. I’m not bothered about camera placement but the pencil issue is the worst.
I don’t think the Pro-differentiating features will come to the iPad Mini until there are new Pro-differentiating features to replace them. It’s possible Apple could make an all new iPad Mini Pro product, but not sure if the demand is high enough for Apple to take interest.I love the form factor of the mini...but for the life of me i dont get why apple couldent at least put in faceid into the damn thing. Even now that makes no sense. Thats my one huge gripe with the mini's, they would be the perfect size tablet if they got pro features like faceID and oled 120HZ screens. Like those two things alone would take it from a good tablet to the best tablet ever made imho.
But apple still...(For now) see's it as a midrange product. Ok fine. I do think eventually with the next version (after this one) they will have no choice but to add those things to it.
So by 2027-2028 we should have that dream tablet of ours, this will serve me just fine until then. I love the pros, but when i had them, i mainly use them as laptops because they are really meant to be hybrid computers...keyboard mouse support, etc.
Problem is...as laptops, they are half a wonderful product, but its the software holding them back. I truly think apple should just blend the ipad pros into the macbook line and make those devices standard hybrid computers and make the Mini and the baseline ipads their own standard tablet line.
Its apple's stubbornness to blend the best of both worlds and its ego and outright lazyness with their products that hold them back and they are feeling that now with the lack of sales of iPhones.
I love my new Iphone 16 Pro Max, but its not a complete product. AI is going to complete that, same with the ipad mini, but its a damn shame they dident have these things ready at launch.
Heres what i think is going to happen...people who bought it just to buy the newest latest and greatest (Im gulity of this myself) are going to be super disapointed day one. Once Apple Intellegence is out and up and working, its going to feel like the next level product but still a stopgap.
3 years from now, Apple HAS to put out a OLED 120HZ FACEID Ipad Mini. I dont see how in 3 years (the average lifespan of ipad mini's) they could still get away without doing that. That Ipad mini is going to be insane IF THEY DECIDE TO DO IT but at this point i dont see how they can't do it
But its going to come with a price increase, and ill bet you by then it will be moot anyway cause hopefully by then we will have some kind of folding iphone, so if they go that route i dont see how the ipad mini survives.
I’m curious if Apple still sells the Mini 6 in stores. I see online you can’t buy any Mini, you can only preorder the Mini 7.Stores won’t display product until launch day.
The new iPad Mini supports an external display but not Stage ManagerIt doesn’t look like it: https://support.apple.com/en-lamr/105075
I don’t think they will. It would make it confusing for a lot of customers, not to mention the staff trying to upsell the 7.I’m curious if Apple still sells the Mini 6 in stores. I see online you can’t buy any Mini, you can only preorder the Mini 7.
Interesting. I see it totally differently. Is Apple losing market share of the high end? IMO the ASoC Mac laptops, Mac Minis and Studios have been superb devices; Apple sells more watches than Switzerland does; etc. Sure there are improvements to be made (a Mac Pro would be nice...), but IMO Apple is doing things very well.I have to be honest their updates in the last year or so have made me really lower my expectations even for what comes at events.
They simply aren’t taking big swings anymore and the one thing they did take a swing on has been a total flop
The rumor mill had it that they rotated the display controller, essentially shifting the problem from portrait to landscape.It’s the same display so I guess the answer is a big fat no!
pencil 2 isn't the same as what you mentionedUntrue. FromApple's website:
- Supports Apple Pencil Pro
- Supports Apple Pencil (USB‑C)
Not sure that the folding bit is going to happen but imagine that an 8.9” (as per some old rumours on screen size trials) could be sold as a 9” iPad Air m2, that would set the cat amongst the pigeons as pricing would potentially be the same but surrounding technology so much better.Folding 9" 120Hz ProMotion OLED, please; but the fold needs to be imperceptible, because I want to use this as a pocketable sketchpad...
I think the 6th gen is a discontinued product at this point (so won’t be in Apple Stores) but could end up living an extended life at third party retailers at discounted prices.I don’t think they will. It would make it confusing for a lot of customers, not to mention the staff trying to upsell the 7.
YES!
yeah odd one. i know it's a small display but window support works fine on foldables with a similar screen size.The new iPad Mini supports an external display but not Stage Manager
It's kind of funny/weird that there's a week or so after almost every new product announcement where Apple won't sell you the old product nor the new product.I think the 6th gen is a discontinued product at this point (so won’t be in Apple Stores) but could end up living an extended life at third party retailers at discounted prices.