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nice! no mac pro classic 2009-2012.... whatever....
Don't know if that really matters. W10 runs fine on my 2009 iMac which isn't on the list either. And I think it ran on my 2009 MBP as well, but I have deleted the Partition by now.
 
can someone explain what this means for unsupported macs that are more than capable of running windows 10.
i was running windows 10 on my 2011 imac but was having lots of problems (see a series of threads) and have just yesterday had to reinstall my os x from time machine.

does this mean that can only use bootcamp 5, which might (or might not) mean ill continue to have problems.
or does it mean i could use this new bootcamp 6 but its unsupported?
could i get a download of it and manually run all the drivers in it? would there be any benefit?
 
did you hear about the new and streamlined and improved and brand new innovative feature of windows 10 that shows ads while your playing windows solitaire???

microsoft wants to charge you $2 a month to get rid of the advertisements.

why would anyone want this feature?

no thank you, I'm not touching windows 10
My take is that we'll see an entire shakedown of the pricing structure in the fall for Windows 10. IMO the concept of a pay-as-you-go OS is a turkey.
 
Does this make the touchpad a 'precision' one in Windows meaning it can use the new windows gestures?

No, I'm afraid. Microsoft has relaxed their touchpad requirements, too, which makes the job easier for Apple. In their wisdom, they chose not to update the driver.
 
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No, I'm afraid. Microsoft has relaxed their touchpad requirements, too, which makes the job easier for Apple. In their wisdom, they chose not to update the driver.
Oh wow. Well, I don't feel too bad for missing out on this on my MBA 2011 then. (Except: I get flaky wifi using 8.1 bootcamp for windows 10 and was hoping proper bootcamp support may fix that. Ah well.)
 
>no MacBook Air 11 2011
Rude.
No matter - already got it working, didn't seem to need any special measures!

I got mine working as well when I updated to Win10, with a bit of fiddling with drivers for Wi-Fi and such, but I'm in a bit of a pickle. Upgraded Win7 to Win10 on my mid-2011 MacBook Air 13". THen I got a new 2015 12" MacBook. Tried to use Winclone to move my Boot Camp partition but it seems hard drive block sizes are different - the new machine is on a more modern version or something so I can't boot from the old partition on the new machine.

So I tried deactivating my licence key on the MBA and then fresh installing Win10 on the MB but it seems keys which were upgraded from Win7 to Win10 aren't usable on fresh installs. I want to downgrade Win10 to Win7 on my old machine but it won't work. And to top it all off the new MacBook doesn't support Win7 on Boot Camp... Ugh. So now I'm holding out hope that I can downgrade Win7 (getting a MS support tier 2 elevated callback tonight) then maybe use a key to get to Windows 8.1 and maybe bridge the gap between the machines somehow but it's not optimistic and it looks like it's £190 to get a new Win10 key.

Is anyone else with an older MBA and a new MB in the same situation regarding Windows and has any advice?
 
Oh how nice, Apple has obviously ditched support for my 2010 MacBook Pro. Funny that as I bet a Windows laptop from 2010 runs With does 10!

How do I go about installing the new boot camp, obviously not through Apple I'm guessing?

EDIT: Oh never mind I see people have it running fine on older machines, a question though, I registered for my free upgrade from my Windows 7 ages ago, yet I have not had any confirmation I can upgrade, how long does it take, or is it better just to install it myself?
 
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I'm absolutely baffled by this. My 2011 iMac is still way more powerful than all the low end windows laptops out there that will be running Windows 10 out of the box. Certainly a 12-core Mac Pro from 2012 should be supported.

It's not baffling - its that Apple start from the top (latest models) and work back and at some point draw the line for writing driver support - that'll probably be where certain bits of internal hardware are no longer even made. They're not going to write driver support for every single Intel Mac capable of running Windows ever when they've already just done 32 individual machines.
 
It's not baffling - its that Apple start from the top (latest models) and work back and at some point draw the line for writing driver support - that'll probably be where certain bits of internal hardware are no longer even made. They're not going to write driver support for every single Intel Mac capable of running Windows ever when they've already just done 32 individual machines.

They dont need to write drivers for anything apart from their trackpad, keyboard (special key support), and hfs driver (apart from the D700 which seem to be an apple exclusive, but Im sure AMD would be responsible for that). Everything else is stock standard affair, chips and chipsets used in countless other generic windows computers. Thats the reason that those who want to install windows versions on "unsupported" apple models can do so without issues if they just hunt around for the correct drivers from the appropriate chipset manufacturers (broadcom/realtek/intel etc).

I agree with you though, they seemed to draw a line for windows support, which I presume is more to do with testing and validating than anything. Although the cynic in me thinks its just par for the course with Apple and their support for their older machines.
 
Boot Camp 6 support MacBook Backlight timer:)
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It seems they don't like supporting older hardware much with bootcamp. 2011 macbook pros and older should be perfectly capable of running windows 10, not to mention the older Mac Pro's.

I got Windows 10 Home running on a Macbook Pro 17" (Early 2010) without much difficulty. That was before this update.

Though it did refuse to install via USB (this is an issue with older Macbook's rather than anything I'm aware of with Bootcamp or Win 10), but installation from DVD media was seamless.

The *only* isue was that Windows 10 insisted on reformatting the partition as NTFS and now Bootcamp doesn't recognise it while in OSX.. But it still dual-boots without issue.
 
So my MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) is not supported... So 2.3 GHz i7 with 8GB RAM with (1GB) discrete graphics isn't enough?
 
Typical Microsoft geek-out feature... not well THOUGHT OUT. It makes sense on a phone, not so much on a laptop or desktop.
If self appointed grey beards want to go sit in the barber shop and swap stories of 'The good ol days', more power to 'em. For the rest of us, more voice integration is the future, not less. It's not like Dragon dictation or other recognition software are actually new or innovative at this point. MS wants to push the ball further down the field towards completely seamless voice integration? Sounds good to me, warts and all!
 
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""Apple today released an update to Boot Camp with support for Microsoft Windows 10, according to a new support document. The update, Boot Camp 6, is still propagating and is not yet available for OS X""
So ITS released or is not available ??
 
I got mine working as well when I updated to Win10, with a bit of fiddling with drivers for Wi-Fi and such, but I'm in a bit of a pickle. Upgraded Win7 to Win10 on my mid-2011 MacBook Air 13". THen I got a new 2015 12" MacBook. Tried to use Winclone to move my Boot Camp partition but it seems hard drive block sizes are different - the new machine is on a more modern version or something so I can't boot from the old partition on the new machine.

So I tried deactivating my licence key on the MBA and then fresh installing Win10 on the MB but it seems keys which were upgraded from Win7 to Win10 aren't usable on fresh installs. I want to downgrade Win10 to Win7 on my old machine but it won't work. And to top it all off the new MacBook doesn't support Win7 on Boot Camp... Ugh. So now I'm holding out hope that I can downgrade Win7 (getting a MS support tier 2 elevated callback tonight) then maybe use a key to get to Windows 8.1 and maybe bridge the gap between the machines somehow but it's not optimistic and it looks like it's £190 to get a new Win10 key.

Is anyone else with an older MBA and a new MB in the same situation regarding Windows and has any advice?

If it won't boot after winclone try using the menu item, I think it's called "make BIOS/MBR bootable" (if it's as old as mine) - make EFI bootable on newer Macs.

No idea on activation but I think you can move and deactivate your Win7 then get another free upgrade from that.
 
Love to see the "I'm a Mac / PC." commercials briefly come back to rip on Windows 10.

That would be quite dumb at the moment and hit Apple right back in the face. Cos the system now that constantly freezes and has errors is Mac OS X since Yosemite. There are constantly errors and GUI glitches.

And thats on my iMac (late 2013 and the 2015) my MacBook 12" (from this month) - My MacMini runs fine though.
 
It's merely a case of what machines they're willing to spend time testing on. They likely have a test scenario that they run with each specific model to make sure it works. We're talking about an OS here, so that means low-level hardware testing, extensive driver testing, etc etc.

Now, they're a large company and they very well could test on older machines, but time is money, and this likely takes a long time to do.

As a 2011 MBP owner, I'm saddened by this, but someone out there will probably find a way to force install the new software anyway, making this matter a whole let less. :)

Am running on my MBP 13" late 2009. Had issues updating last year with OSX update and also Windows 8/8.1, but managed to force the updated bootcamp on and all good. Windows 10 gave me some keyboard issues, extracted the latest keyboard driver and ran/installed and now Windows 10 running fine.
 
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