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for me the biggest disappointment is the shuffle still. the headphones issue. i can't wear the supplied earbuds and no way do i want to buy specific headphones for it and spend more money. it should have been made so you can use any headphones. i guess i have to resort to ebay for the old one.

Yup. I'm really glad I bought two of the old ones while supplies lasted.
 
I remember Apple.... they used to make computers didn't they?

FM radio in 2009 = jokes! Apple are playing iPod buyers for the cash rich suckers that they are....
 
the whole iPod refresh is all good… nothing to complain about.

but the camera in the Nano is a bit weird... you wouldve thought that it would be in the Touch instead? do people think that this is delayed like in the rumours?
 
It's unfortunately that they will not activate FM Radio reception on the Touch series, as if I am not mistaken they already contain an FM receiver as part of the Bluetooth chipset.

So many apps make use of the integrated camera in the iPhone that it's natural for users to want that camera in the Touch as well. On the other hand I'm glad that I don't feel terribly left behind with my 2G Touch.
 
stop beging such babes the itouch will NOT get camera unless the phone get a new killer feature. i would think though they would give a fm radio to the touch tho
 
So many apps make use of the integrated camera in the iPhone that it's natural for users to want that camera in the Touch as well. On the other hand I'm glad that I don't feel terribly left behind with my 2G Touch.

You would think that a lot of apps make use of the camera... but then again..it might steer people away from the iphone.
did Bluetooth come with the old 2gs touch's?
 
I switched from Verizon to at&t and my price tag is the same, so I am use to this monthly plan. The signal is also the same and in some areas I finally have signal. No cell phone provider is going to work 100% coast to coast.. ever. These unlimited everything for $45-50.00 a month are crap. I was working with a guy who sets up Crickets towers and they only have 3 antennas per cell tower and at&t/Verizon and others have about 12 per tower. I talk to a friend who has Cricket and it's so horrible and I'm on a land line. It's funny because is she goes 10 miles west of her house, shes in roaming. I like the fact that I can go anyplace in the USA and pay the same price. I camp too much to have a deal like that also.

It's funny you say that the unlimiteds are crap.

My sister has Boost Mobile's unlimited $50 a month plan. She always gets service where I do not.

The other day I was all over the greater LA area. City of Industry, Covina, Whittier, even into the Inland Empire in Rancho Cucamunga, and other cities. I spent more time without a signal than I did with one. And its not just my iPhone, but the iPhones of every one I know that currently owns one. The worst part is that when I had Verizon before switching to AT&T for the iPhone, I had a full five bar signal in every single one of those places I visited the other day with a phone that was free with a two year contract.

You know whats even funnier? Apple has an Apple Store in Rancho Cucamunga. The Victoria Gardens Apple Store. It's a nice store, though small and extremely crowded. Inside the store you get a full 5 bar signal with the iPhone thanks to whatever "Femtocell" or signal repeaters they have. Walk out into the parking lot right next to the JC Penny and your signal drops from 5 bars to 2 or even 1.
 
I dont find it that bad.

This was not that bad of an event. I would be more than willing to buy a 64gb Ipod touch. It will give people play and space.

Itunes 9 seems interesting. Overall new look. Not bad. I like the new store, yet tehy got rid of the shopping cart. I liked that.

As for everyone saying you will get a Zune HD good luck getting that to run on your mac.

Overall I would give this event a 7 out of 10.

I am sad no beatles. Expected no tablet.
 
New positioning as "Pocket Computer"

Correct me if I'm wrong... but have they marketed the iPod Touch as a "pocket computer" before? Because if this is a new angle... maybe we are seeing the beginnings of a new positioning of the iPod Touch as a smaller tablet computer perhaps?
 
No video camera in the Touch? What they are thinking?
Nah, maybe it's because of those production problems reported few days ago?
:eek:
they think what they always think.....Let's think about another RIP OFF STRATEGIE!!!
 
Correct me if I'm wrong... but have they been marketing the iPod Touch as a "pocket computer" before? Because if this is a new angle... maybe positioning the iPod Touch as a smaller tablet computer perhaps?

from what i remember apple said first its an ipod to play music and video.
 
Thanks apple for the camera on the touch! It's the only reason I've been waiting for the 3G.

...wait, what's that? No camera? Go to hell, Apple.


And go without my $300

Also I don't get how not selling an iPhone gets apple more money than selling an iTouch with a camera.
 
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*LTD* said:
apple is going to the dogs

it needs some water

ideas are running dry

Um . . . Apple has had nothing but ideas for the last decade. Apple is really the only one that has had any ideas worth anything lately. And then everyone else lines up to copy.

iPods are slowly being eclipsed by iPhones. The phoneless mp3/mediaplayer is dying. We all need to accept that.

I hope this works as I am on my blackberry.
I do not want my mp3 player to be my phone end of story. I like the idea of having a iPod that can leave at home and my phone to be that. I choose to get a blackberry over an iPhone because I do not want a touchscreen only phone but for what the touch does the touch screen is great. I just think it is bad how much apple handicaps the touch god forbid the touch be the same as the iPhone misus the phone. The iPhone and iTouch are to me for the most part in very differnt markets
 
Correct me if I'm wrong... but have they marketed the iPod Touch as a "pocket computer" before? Because if this is a new angle... maybe we are seeing the beginnings of a new positioning of the iPod Touch as a smaller tablet computer perhaps?

You know, I caught that too. At least twice Shiller made comments about it being a good computer... I thought for sure when we saw the Dell netbook ripping out the guy's pocket photo, some thing was coming... but it never did. Just fell flat after that. Do you suppose that a whole section was excised from the presentation at that point? New features? maybe like a camera, fm, video, compass, gps?
 
^^^ Not to mention GPS... :eek:

BTW, where's the 16 Gig $249 model (like 8 Gigs is enough for something like this)???

The gap clearly shows that Apple doesn't want to cannibalize iPhone sales. The problem is STILL AT&T exclusivity - unless Apple plans on changing that.

The next problem is cellphone providers "upping" the monthly costs because "you now have an iPhone".
 
No camera, no buy.
I find this all rather amusing. While it seems weird to add a camera to the Nano and not the Touch, I don't think anyone here is mad about the Touch itself. It's the iPhone you're mad about.

You're complaining about the lack of a camera that, while decent, isn;t as good as a dedicated digital camera, and GPS, etc. Sounds to me like what you want is the same features as the iPhone without having to deal with AT&T or get a contract. Yes, you're willing to forgo the cell phone functionality to get the rest, but you wouldn't mind having the cell phone ability, either.

Unlocked but fully supported iPhone 3GS really is what people are after, not a new Touch. ;)
 
No still shots from Nano

I just finished a chat with an Apple Expert on the online store. I was told that the camera on the new iPod Nano's do not take still photos, only video.

The expert said,

"It is capable of taking videos, but not still pictures.
As well as the awesome new FM Radio feature."

Kind of lame, in my opinion, but I love how they tried to reconcile it with the "awesome new FM feature"
 
David Pogue / NYT interview with Steve Jobs

Link:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/09/in-qa-steve-jobs-snipes-at-amazon-and-praises-ice-cream/

Excerpt:
Q.
You put a camcorder on the iPod Nano. Why not on the iPod Touch?

A.
Originally, we weren’t exactly sure how to market the Touch. Was it an iPhone without the phone? Was it a pocket computer? What happened was, what customers told us was, they started to see it as a game machine. Because a lot of the games were free on the store. Customers started to tell us, “You don’t know what you’ve got here — it’s a great game machine, with the multitouch screen, the accelerometer, and so on.”

We started to market it that way, and it just took off. And now what we really see is it’s the lowest-cost way to the App Store, and that’s the big draw. So what we were focused on is just reducing the price to $199. We don’t need to add new stuff — we need to get the price down where everyone can afford it
 
You are correct. I thought was weird when site I was on mentioned Schiller say or double capacity to 32 GB for $100 more. Was really quadruple 8-32 right?

Pretty sure he was referring to going from 32gb to 64gb for only $100. I've double checked my math and indeed, 32 is HALF of 64.
 
I don't think you guys see the significance here. The touch getting a faster processor is the true sign of where this all is going. iPods of the near future will be used much the same way we're using laptops today. To get there they've got to cram more processing power and memory into them... or have them be able to access cloud computing.

Apple hasn't run out of ideas, but are in the middle of a transitional period waiting for all the pieces to fall into place.

I honestly don't think a pseudo ipod/laptop device will ever replace laptops (and on that note, neither will netbooks). Why? It's quite simple: call me crazy, but what I do on my laptop isn't limited to checking email and facebook. Taking notes in class, typing essays on the go, working on presentations, that type of thing. I don't see a phone-like device ever properly fulfilling those needs. If it did, I would bet it would cease to be a phone and genuinely be what we call a "laptop". The above is why I don't subscribe to the "convergence" theory. It reminds me too much of the idiom "Jack of all trades, king of none." I don't think specialization is necessarily a bad thing.
 
Wonder how many new Nanos Apple is going to sell to the millions and millions of teenagers this holiday season?? I wouldn't be surprised if the new Nano is on every teenagers Christmas list this year... When I was in high school, having one of the first video cell phones, that's all I did was shoot videos. I think it's a terrific update.

Now the touch... Who cares if you own an iPhone? And if you don't own an iPhone, shouldn't your blackberry have a camera and video as well??

Apple wins today.
 
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