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Apple Updates Entire iPod Family, Bringing Capacity and Performance Bumps to iPod Touch and Video Camera to iPod Nano

No camera on NANO

rgarjr said:
Yah, that's kind of mind blowing why they didn't include the still photo feature.
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Steve explained to David Pogue (NYT) that the circuit / lens for a still picture camera would require a change of format / casing for the iPod Nano... particularly the "autofocus" function

I guess VIDEO is really easy, particularly because of low res...
 
Whine & Cheese Party?

I was waiting to buy an iPod Nano. Wow, now I get one with a movie camera!!!

I for one am happy.....:D

Why all this whining?
 
I have an iPhone 3GS and I love it.

I just ordered a new 16GB nano and I will love it.

For all those whiners out there....sucks to be you!!!
 
mosx said:
I have an iPhone on AT&T and I do regret it. AT&T's service over the last two years has been terrible. It's gotten progressively worse with time as well. There are so many dead zones in the greater Los Angeles area that its gone from wondering where you'll lose your signal to wondering where you'll actually have a signal.

Plus there is the issue of cost. The iPhone starts at $99. But you have to factor in a minimum of $39.99 a month for the lowest minute rate play, as well as $30 for the mandatory data plan, and at least another $5 for 200 SMS/MMS messages. Thats roughly $75 a month BEFORE taxes and fees pile on. You're looking at spending at least $80 a month when all is said and done. For the first year of service, you're looking at $100 for the iPhone plus roughly $960, so overall, $1060 roughly (give or take a few dollars after taxes and fees). Add on another $960 for the second year of the contract.

The iPod touch is a flat $299 (plus sales tax) for the same internal hardware as the iPhone 3G S with no additional fees, save for a $10 upgrade every year thanks to Apple deliberately misusing SOX.

The iPod touch is a much better overall deal. It's a pocket computer that does everything the iPhone does, minus mobile data and the camera. Theres no excuse for the lack of camera, considering those camera modules cost what? $2?

One can argue you'll have a cellphone anyway, so why not just make it an iPhone? Well, the majority of the US population lives in areas served by MetroPCS. $45 a month for unlimited everything. Why pay double to AT&T? Not to mention that the midwest and southern US also have regional carriers that beat the pants off AT&T when it comes to pricing as well. Plus other large carriers like T-Mobile and Boost offer significantly better rate plans than AT&T. With T-Mobile I can buy a phone at full retail and pre-pay monthly and enjoy all of the benefits of contracted service. So why should I buy an iPhone and be stuck with AT&T's expensive and extremely poor service? If I'm going to pay that much for monthly phone service, I'm going to Verizon or Sprint. At least I know I'll get coverage and be able to use my phone with them.
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You raise some very valid points. Personally, I think that having my main iPod integrated with my cell phone is a major convenience factor that I love. We've been with AT&T (then Cingular) since 2001 and we've never had any major problems... and I haven't had any problems with the AT&T network working on my iPhone, perhaps that's why I'm so pro-iPhone, anti-iPod Touch. Perhaps if the tables were turned I would think otherwise.
 
I'm pretty happy with the new iPod touch upgrades, even with a lack of camera and GPS.

BUT, I was hoping for a 16GB at the $199 price point, with the same CPU as the 32/64GB models instead of a slightly cheaper 8GB model with 2nd gen specs.
 
I guess Apple is going to give the Touch a refresh in January along with the new Shuffle.
 
Good round of updates I'd say! :D

But seriously, the nano has a video camera and the Touch doesn't??? I wonder if they did have problems and will refresh the Touch with a camera after the holidays in January or so.

Also, so the nano can shoot video but NOT take still pics??? :confused:

I am SUPER EXCITED about the new iTunes Movie Extras!!! :D I have been waiting for that since they even got movies! So long DVDs :) And then when they make them all 1080P, SO LONG BLURAY! :D
 
i think the nano cam is a nice addition for those who dont need/want/cant afford specifically for a touch...except the fact that the touch would make much more sense...able to upload it via facebook/myspace/flickr/email it eetc etc.



but i do like the size increase of the touch.
 
Disappointed

I know not everyone wanted a camera, so for those people that the iPod touch works for, that's cool. I am one of the people that wanted a camera though. Why?

1. I have a cell phone with a 2mp camera, but it's not very good - there's a delay when trying to take pictures and honestly, the quality isn't very good
2. Assuming the iPod touch camera would be similar to the iPhone camera, that would be handy to have all the time, esp with selective focusing and video with editing
3. Integration with apps like amazon, smugmug, facebook, flickr, etc

there might be one or two more points, but I can't remember right now. I'm just so disappointed that even though I was considering upgrading my wife's nano with a new one, I don't want to now. Maybe a bit dramatic? Sure, but that's how disappointed I am
 
Was surprised..

To see that the iPod Nano got the most updates out of the entire line since from what I've seen the iPod Touch is eclipsing the iPod Nano in terms of sales.

Pleasantly surprised iPod Classic got a capacity bump at all.
 
turtlebud said:
I know not everyone wanted a camera, so for those people that the iPod touch works for, that's cool. I am one of the people that wanted a camera though. Why?

1. I have a cell phone with a 2mp camera, but it's not very good - there's a delay when trying to take pictures and honestly, the quality isn't very good
2. Assuming the iPod touch camera would be similar to the iPhone camera, that would be handy to have all the time, esp with selective focusing and video with editing
3. Integration with apps like amazon, smugmug, facebook, flickr, etc

there might be one or two more points, but I can't remember right now. I'm just so disappointed that even though I was considering upgrading my wife's nano with a new one, I don't want to now. Maybe a bit dramatic? Sure, but that's how disappointed I am
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The iPod Touch is not positioned that way. Apple advertises it as a gaming device, period. Yes, it has all the iPhone OS 3.0 features but it's positioned as a gaming device and Apple is going towards Nintendo and Sony's customers with the DS and PSP. They are not adversing it as a device to send pictures over the internet with and videos of your family.
 
Disappointed

I have NEVER felt more disappointed or underwhelmed by an Apple release event then today's. This was absolutely the worst, non-event ever - even with Steve-o there.

The product's all seem tired. Nothing new. Simply a waste of design time.
 
ipodtouch-user said:
Well, I also think there's plenty of folks out there who want a GPS capable itouch with camera & microphone, and would be willing to pay a bit extra for that.
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Yes, and the difference between that and the iPhone is:
  • No Cell Phone functionality.
  • No AT&T
  • No Contract
  • Doesn't cost $500+ new.
So yeah, you just verified what I said. :rolleyes: What people want is pretty much the iPhone at a lower price point without contract.
 
krzyglue said:
I honestly don't think a pseudo ipod/laptop device will ever replace laptops (and on that note, neither will netbooks). Why? It's quite simple: call me crazy, but what I do on my laptop isn't limited to checking email and facebook. Taking notes in class, typing essays on the go, working on presentations, that type of thing. I don't see a phone-like device ever properly fulfilling those needs. If it did, I would bet it would cease to be a phone and genuinely be what we call a "laptop". The above is why I don't subscribe to the "convergence" theory. It reminds me too much of the idiom "Jack of all trades, king of none." I don't think specialization is necessarily a bad thing.
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most netbooks can do everything a laptop can these days, i just prefer a 15" screen and don't like the smaller screens. only thing netbooks have trouble with is games and playing back HD video
 
iPhone3GCrazed said:
You raise some very valid points. Personally, I think that having my main iPod integrated with my cell phone is a major convenience factor that I love. We've been with AT&T (then Cingular) since 2001 and we've never had any major problems... and I haven't had any problems with the AT&T network working on my iPhone, perhaps that's why I'm so pro-iPhone, anti-iPod Touch. Perhaps if the tables were turned I would think otherwise.
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While I will be the first to admit that the convenience of having a phone and media player is one is appealing, I unfortunately live in an area where Verizon is pretty much the only thing that works. In the city AT&T works fine, but once you venture outside of the city limits (which I have to do daily) you get absolutely nothing.

Additionally, while I like many of the apps on my Touch, I was ready to trade it in for a 32GB Nano today. The shine wore off pretty quickly for me. If I have wifi I almost always have my Macbook. While some love pocket computing it's not for me. I will keep my Blackberry for checking something on the fly. There has never been a time when I wanted an app while I had wifi, but there have been countless times I wanted to google something while in the middle of nowhere.

The Touch without wifi is a large screened iPod, while the iPhone simply does not work here.

alent1234 said:
most netbooks can do everything a laptop can these days, i just prefer a 15" screen and don't like the smaller screens. only thing netbooks have trouble with is games and playing back HD video
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For those of us with huge hands netbooks (even the ones with nearly full-sized keyboards) just won't cut it. A netbook is capable of doing what I need a computer to, I am just incapable of using one.
 
mosx said:
It's funny you say that the unlimiteds are crap.

My sister has Boost Mobile's unlimited $50 a month plan. She always gets service where I do not.

The other day I was all over the greater LA area. City of Industry, Covina, Whittier, even into the Inland Empire in Rancho Cucamunga, and other cities. I spent more time without a signal than I did with one. And its not just my iPhone, but the iPhones of every one I know that currently owns one. The worst part is that when I had Verizon before switching to AT&T for the iPhone, I had a full five bar signal in every single one of those places I visited the other day with a phone that was free with a two year contract.

You know whats even funnier? Apple has an Apple Store in Rancho Cucamunga. The Victoria Gardens Apple Store. It's a nice store, though small and extremely crowded. Inside the store you get a full 5 bar signal with the iPhone thanks to whatever "Femtocell" or signal repeaters they have. Walk out into the parking lot right next to the JC Penny and your signal drops from 5 bars to 2 or even 1.
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Boost may be $50 a month but it's not a full web browser, no enterprise email and you have to pay a lot of money for crappy phones
 
SeaFox said:
Yes, and the difference between that and the iPhone is:
  • No Cell Phone functionality.
  • No AT&T
  • No Contract
  • Doesn't cost $500+ new.
So yeah, you just verified what I said. :rolleyes: What people want is pretty much the iPhone at a lower price point without contract.
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And you have a problem with that?
 
SeaFox said:
Yes, and the difference between that and the iPhone is:
  • No Cell Phone functionality.
  • No AT&T
  • No Contract
  • Doesn't cost $500+ new.
So yeah, you just verified what I said. :rolleyes: What people want is pretty much the iPhone at a lower price point without contract.
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No thanks I already have a phone, so NO not everyone wants a iPhone without a contract. These all in one devices do one thing poorly, BATTERY support. Two independent devices work far better than a all in one device.

Until a all-in-one device can meet the battery life at the classic for media functions, and AT THE SAME TIME still have plenty of battery life for phone conversations, apps, internet they are of no appeal to me. Battery life is still pathetic on the iPhone.

Unfortunately apple continues to believe THINNER is some how better. [Shuffle for instance] If they'd thicken the device only slightly they could make some serious improvements to the battery.
 
Dear Apple

Dear Apple,

When are you going to add the video effects to my 3GS? Wouldn't that just be a software issue? Yeah. How about now.

Not that I care if I have a pedometer in my iPhone, but how about enabling that. I'd feel pretty sure that the accelerometer can act as the hardware for that too.

Thanks.
 
macshill said:
If only Microsoft had the foresight to add a camera to a Zune HD. Then it'd be an iPod Touch killer!

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not a chance.
 
Touch will never be like iphone....

You pay monthly for iphone but you get 3G streaming everywhere!

You don't have to look for wifi spots... Go listen to slacker/pandora/last.fm in the car with ipod touch.... see if you can... lol

Oh and GPS.... without gps...well, it's pretty much useless ... tons of GPS applications and now navigation apps too....


so don't BS yourselves saying... it's iphone without the monthly fee.... Not even close!
 
Primejimbo said:
I switched from Verizon to at&t and my price tag is the same, so I am use to this monthly plan. The signal is also the same and in some areas I finally have signal. No cell phone provider is going to work 100% coast to coast.. ever. These unlimited everything for $45-50.00 a month are crap. I was working with a guy who sets up Crickets towers and they only have 3 antennas per cell tower and at&t/Verizon and others have about 12 per tower. I talk to a friend who has Cricket and it's so horrible and I'm on a land line. It's funny because is she goes 10 miles west of her house, shes in roaming. I like the fact that I can go anyplace in the USA and pay the same price. I camp too much to have a deal like that also.
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These back and forth debates of "AT&T sucks" and "I don't know what you're problem is, AT&T works great" are all anecdotal. However, given the amount of press that has been given to crappy AT&T service, along with the noise about it on various social networking sites, I'd say that AT&T customers are generally more dissatisfied than Verizon or T-Mobile customers. Just do a Google search.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+bad+reception&start=0&sa=N&cts=1252545039069
 
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