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Perhaps Apple doesn't care about broadcast because Apple wants to change TV, too. God, I hope they do.
 
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Thank you

I am a editor for NBC and other cable networks and it doesn't matter what I edit with I adapt . I haven't been using FINAL CUT X a lot but I use FINAL CUT 7 with no issues and I also work with premiere and avid . If you are a good editor you can work with most any program so stop the whining and learn how to edit !

Thank you! Im also a professional editor. I completely agree. I will say FCPX has come a long way. I have used all of the major editing programs and I will say that FCPX has really opened my eyes to what I think the future of editing can be. I have used it on very large scale projects that are going to broadcast without any major hiccups.

Now with this update, hopefully more people will give it a chance and we can all get back to editing!!
 
What I don't understand is why Apple didn't make it more clear they were going to add these features back. I understand their need for secrecy, but sometimes they seriously overdo it.

It was overtly clear, all it required wad common sense.
 
What do the real pros use?

What about the Adult film industry? Are they switching to Avid?
 
Thank you! Im also a professional editor. I completely agree. I will say FCPX has come a long way. I have used all of the major editing programs and I will say that FCPX has really opened my eyes to what I think the future of editing can be. I have used it on very large scale projects that are going to broadcast without any major hiccups.

Now with this update, hopefully more people will give it a chance and we can all get back to editing!!

BAM- right on. Blew up this cut for my clients 3 months ago on FCPX. People you must adapt. You must flow. You must.... edit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6lbDaFGHc&feature=related
 
I work in an insanely high paced broadcast environment. We made the leap to FCPX the week it came out and have been flying high ever since.

I seriously doubt the veracity of people here who claim to be "pro" editors. We adapted our workflow to FCPX and made huge bounds in efficiency and productivity in the fist month alone. Now with multi-cam, I'm almost afraid at how cool things are going to get.

lol, this sounds like a crock if I ever heard it.

Can't you guys accept that some people have demands that exceed FCP X? I'm so glad to read they're building on X and can't wait for it to mature, but you guys gotta get real.

BAM- right on. Blew up this cut for my clients 3 months ago on FCPX. People you must adapt. You must flow. You must.... edit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6lbDaFGHc&feature=related

And what if your client doesn't want delivery on youtube?? Get your head out of that hole, bud.
 
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BAM- right on. Blew up this cut for my clients 3 months ago on FCPX. People you must adapt. You must flow. You must.... edit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6lbDaFGHc&feature=related

You're killing me ... with comedy. For crying out loud 'Ryhme' each of your clips you post is funnier than the one before.

You have perfected small-town public access cheesiness! The camera work on this last one was extraordinary.

But seriously, you're only proving the point the 'pros' here are trying to make. If THIS is a shining example of what FCPx can do ... then everyone defending the software should just go home now, lol.
 
You're killing me ... with comedy. For crying out loud 'Ryhme' each of your clips you post are funny than the one before.

You have perfected small-town public access cheesiness! The camera work on this last one was extraordinary.

But seriously, you're only proving the point the 'pros' here are trying to make. If THIS is a shining example of what FCPx can do ... then everyone defending the software should just go home now, lol.

jesus what do i have to do? the last video I posted didn't even have ONE SINGLE EDIT in it. hahahahahahaaa. Man, this board really does need some comic relief.
 
jesus what do i have to do? the last video I posted didn't even have ONE SINGLE EDIT in it. hahahahahahaaa. Man, this board really does need some comic relief.

I guess someone has to care enough to watch it to get the joke, haha.
 
jesus what do i have to do? the last video I posted didn't even have ONE SINGLE EDIT in it. hahahahahahaaa. Man, this board really does need some comic relief.

After I posted I started to realize that maybe you have been joking this whole time.

You really do agree that FCPx stinks and have been showing these crappy clips as alleged 'pro' who praises it.

Well played, my friend. :)

I'm just feeling silly that I didn't pick up on your ruse prior to this.
 
What will apple do when they reach saturation? the consumer market apple is so in love now is not known for upgrading often, i do wonder how long they can keep sales of the iphone that high.

5 years so far!
I think it's consumers who upgrade the most regularly - iPhones are a perfect example - that's why it has sold 10 of millions over the last half decade.
However I disagree with those who claim Apple have abandoned the 'Pro' market.
Just because Apple have increased their sales in consumer products does not mean they are abandoning their pro sector.
If anything, they are better placed in terms of capital to heavily invest in R&D into new pro products than ever before.
Pro products have always had a longer life than consumer products and so the upgrade cycles are always longer too.
The Mac Pro for example has seen no refresh for a long time, but then there have been no updates from Intel Xeons (as used in the Mac Pro), so it's not really surprising, just VERY frustrating (i'm dying for new Mac Pro's).
FCPX as it was introduced maybe wasn't a good upgrade, but it was non the less a brand new product aimed at professionals, so that's hardly an abandonment - especially taking into account this recent update which has tried to address a lot of its original shortcomings.
Logic Pro has also seen many updates & upgrades from Apple since they purchased it from CLabs too.
FCPX wont be for everyone and it might not be as suited to some tasks as other editing software is, but that claim can be made about ALL software in any genre - that is why there are alternatives.
Arguments like this can be found on most pro software. Take Quark v Indesign for example. Some like one, some like another, but most use both!
 
After I posted I started to realize that maybe you have been joking this whole time.

You really do agree that FCPx stinks and have been showing these crappy clips as alleged 'pro' who praises it.

Well played, my friend. :)

I'm just feeling silly that I didn't pick up on your ruse prior to this.

I really should grow up, huh.

but **** it, I don't know one editor who is happy with FCPX. :cool:
 
Try shooting an hour long show on Thursday night with 3 cameras and have it ready for broadcast QC friday afternoon and air friday night to 300 million households. Once you're in that situation, you can lecture me on not being able to "figure out a way" myself. I don't put deadline-heavy shows in the hands of tools that have been downgraded to cut the features I use for that very instance. That's unprofessional and stupid.

You work on a show that gets 300 MILLION viewers every Friday? What show is this? House? American Idol? Oh wait, even those don't get 300 MILLION viewers...

Nevertheless, I'd love to know what show you work on that waits until Thursday night to film, and then has to be ready for 300 MILLION viewers on Friday. What network is it? What show is getting that many viewers on Friday night? Where can we see YOUR NAME in the credits?

I understand the sentiment that you are trying to convey here, but by throwing out these kind of wild claims you just sound like you are blowing smoke up everyone's butts.
 
You don't work in a post-production house or in broadcast do you? My firm is in the process of moving to Premiere. The news organization I used to work for is in the process of doing the same. Buddies who cut in LA and NYC have already jumped ship to Avid Media Composer. So when I say "most of us", I mean most of the editors I know and interact with regularly who span the industry. It's a pretty good sample.

oh really? most I know stuck with FCP7 (until now probably). Not many jumped to AVID and those who tried Premiere came back with 50-50 feeling about it.

If your organization moves to Premiere it uses a lot of manpower and resources to do so. Or do your FCP7 projects open in Premiere better than in FCPX?
Once the Broadcast monitoring moves from beta to full-go, there is nothing that will justify moving to Premiere from FCP7. Unless you are depending on AfterEffects, but then you had no reason to be in FCP7 in the first place.

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I really should grow up, huh.

but **** it, I don't know one editor who is happy with FCPX. :cool:

haha...well I know a few (me included). it took a few days to get used to it, but once you get the hang of it, there´s no looking back.
and with 10.0.3 it will be more stable, has most missing features back and simply has an elegant feel to it.
I wonder what 10.3 will be like then !!
 
It was overtly clear, all it required wad common sense.

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Common sense? Come on, everyone on this forum knows that Apple NEVER updates their products, never adds new features to their products, never evolves their products, and is NEVER on the cutting edge.

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I totally agree with you. Besides the fact that they DID state they would be adding these features in the publicity demo where they announced the product, these "pros" act offended that Apple would lower their price point, innovate the industry again..

That being said, if Apple HAD waited until multi-cam, FCP 7 import, and other critical features were ready then the industry wouldn't have QQ'd over the product. Truth be told, if they had waited then all of these "pros" would have continued to use FCP7 until FCP X (with the features) was released.

So, perhaps the "pros" should have continued to use the FCP7 that they were fully vested in until the features are added without all the QQ'ing about how Apple "sabotaged" them.
 
You work on a show that gets 300 MILLION viewers every Friday? What show is this? House? American Idol? Oh wait, even those don't get 300 MILLION viewers...

Nevertheless, I'd love to know what show you work on that waits until Thursday night to film, and then has to be ready for 300 MILLION viewers on Friday. What network is it? What show is getting that many viewers on Friday night? Where can we see YOUR NAME in the credits?

I understand the sentiment that you are trying to convey here, but by throwing out these kind of wild claims you just sound like you are blowing smoke up everyone's butts.

The network reaches 300 mil viewers. I doubt that many actually watch it. And yes, sometimes an interview is scheduled late and I have to edit things last minute. That's the news world. It's not the most fun or efficient way of doing things, but it's the reality of my line of work sometimes. The network was Al Jazeera btw, and we didn't have credits in our shows...sorry. I'm not throwing out any wild claims, I've worked on hundreds of shows for the network, but you clearly don't understand the way the industry can work sometimes.
 
That looks like the same stuff that has been airing on daytime cable tv since 1988 or so. No offense, but I wouldn't hold that up as an example of some sort of achievement. Speaking as an outsider to the industry who did stuff like that for hobby projects more than a decade ago, it's not impressive.

I have to agree. That was really cheesy looking stuff.
If that's the best FCPX can do...
 
The Free Trial has also been updated

Nice to see the Free Trial has also been updated to 10.0.3 (it was 10.0.1)

Go get it now!
 
I have to agree. That was really cheesy looking stuff.
If that's the best FCPX can do...

Rhyme was bird-doggin' the whole time. Read back a few posts. That was exactly his point - that FCPx is basically for solo editors making cheesy public access dreck.

I have to hand it to him for keeping a 'straight' face as long as he did.
 
You don't work in a post-production house or in broadcast do you? My firm is in the process of moving to Premiere. The news organization I used to work for is in the process of doing the same. Buddies who cut in LA and NYC have already jumped ship to Avid Media Composer. So when I say "most of us", I mean most of the editors I know and interact with regularly who span the industry. It's a pretty good sample.

In LA....trust in Apple's Final Cut support is severely damaged. The channel I work for has had numerous discussions about switching from FCP7 to either Premiere or Avid. FCPX?...people just roll their eyes. These updates are encouraging but I'll need a LOT of convincing that FCPX isn't really geared toward the lone editor vs "pro workflows".
 
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