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Apple Updates iMac Lineup With Up to 8-Core 9th-Gen Intel Processors and Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Options
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I get that Tim is a business guy. The company makes an astounding profit. But you would think....nay...hope, that once in a while an exceptional value product would be slipped in to the mix. Like cut profit in half for a few items here and there just for some balance. System upgrade options might be a nice place to start.
It should have been standard across the range 3 years ago.
It probably wouldn’t be too hard to come up with one.
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That’s why he will call it AirPower 2.
That is the way it has always been, going all the way back to the 20"/24" versions of the iMac. Are you honestly expecting something different from Apple? Have you not been paying attention for the last 10 years?
Hence the typical Apple comment, it would have been nice to offer upgrades on the lower machines, they have done this before.
Kinda strange the 27" starts with only the i5 and not a i7 considering it's price. And when you want to upgrade the cpu, you'll notice there isn't even a i7 option but you gotta go straight to the i9.
Not sure how well this cpu will do under heavy load. Will it throttle? They probably haven't done anything to the cooling but have given the faster cpu option which obviously produces more heat. The 'old' 27" with the i7 already gets really hot under heavy load.
+ off topic question: anyone knows what kind of lamp that is?
Not sure how well this cpu will do under heavy load. Will it throttle? They probably haven't done anything to the cooling but have given the faster cpu option which obviously produces more heat. The 'old' 27" with the i7 already gets really hot under heavy load.
+ off topic question: anyone knows what kind of lamp that is?
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I agree with these being quite nice updates.
Pros:
Cons:
Pros:
- Up to 8-Core i9 CPU (this config could be faster than base iMac Pro on some video editing use cases due to quick sync)
- Radeon Pro Vega 48 seems to be a capable card for a mainstream machine
Cons:
- Same design (not only with the appearance but also cooling solution wise)
- Same connectivity (could have been better with 4 TB3 + 2 USB-A, BT 5.0 and 1080p FaceTime camera could have been nice)
That's the business strategy. You would expect a computer in 2019 wouldn't come with a 5400 rpm hard drive either... guess what? Think different.Kinda strange the 27" starts with only the i5 and not a i7 considering it's price. And when you want to upgrade the cpu, you'll notice there isn't even a i7 option but you gotta go straight to the i9.
Not sure how well this cpu will do under heavy load. Will it throttle? They probably haven't done anything to the cooling but have given the faster cpu option which obviously produces more heat. The 'old' 27" with the i7 already gets really hot under heavy load.
+ off topic question: anyone knows what kind of lamp that is?
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To quote Michael Obuchowski, chief investment officer of Apple shareholder Merlin Asset Management, from a CNET article:
"Tim Cook is one of the nicest and most charitable CEOs out there. But, by now we've all fully realised that despite all his faults, Steve Jobs was a creative genius and Apple's alleged deep bench doesn't come even close to replacing his ideas and obsession with design."
It doesn't get any better from here, sadly.
If I have learned anything over the past 8 years of Tim Cook's tenure as Apple's CEO, it is that "it would have been nice to offer" is no longer a part of the Apple's corporate lexicon. Dead. Burned at the stake. Cross through the heart. Shot into the sun, never to return. I have accepted it and will defend it to a very small extent. Very. Small.
However, and this may assuage your frustration with my initial response - I always keep this in the back of my mind whenever I see myself defending Apple a little too much - I can walk into an Apple Store and spend $6,649.00 on the top of the line 2018 15" MacBook Pro maxed out and Apple will still want me to cough up $19 for a Power Adapter Extension Cable to get an extra 3' of cord to reach an outlet and not have an 87w brick dangling by two tiny slivers of metal out of a typical US wall jack. It is both sadistic and brilliant at the same time. It pisses me off to no end, but I expect nothing less from Mr. Operations Guy. It is literally his fiduciary duty and part of his employment contract while he holds his CEO title at the pleasure of the Board of Directors. I do not envy him that pressure. Some may say that his compensation makes up for it, and I can tell you that there is no amount of money, that all those zeros are simply the price you have agreed to in exchange for that responsibility.
The hard part for me is accepting and coming to peace with Apple as it exists today. I did and I have, mostly. However, I really do need to send Mr Cook a personal note about how macOS needs more attention than it currently receives.
Please share with us what Tim says back.
Oh I think Cook like most directors blagged his way to the top stepping on and over others.
I like your post though. I’m afraid I can’t elaborare an answer as it’ll be seen as off topic if I state what does and doesn’t interest me these days in Apple, and my post will be deleted as usual.
But they did offer GPU upgrades in the lower spec iMacs before if I remember?
But a good example of your post is the fact it still comes with a 5400RPM hard drive as standard! They’ll stop making them before Apple stops selling them!
Don't stop there. They need a new keyboard with Touch ID, T2 security chip and, for goodness sakes, doing away with hard drives. Why can't they just put SSD's in their models. Of course, that still doesn't address their price gouging on RAM or SSD upgrades.
This iMac design hasn't been refreshed in 6 or 7 years.
I am not really concerned about the design of the iMac, as it is a desktop computer and being lighter or smaller does not really affect its functionality. Also, I am not really worried about Touch ID or security chip.
I would like to see improvements in the screen (8K?), and a better keyboard, though.
I just bought the 27" 3.8 i5 two days ago.
This does just seem like a small spec bump, but is it worth to return the "new" iMac for the newest model with the 6-core i5 and different ram (2666MHz vs 2400MHz)? Even purchased 3rd party ram for the new machine so I am running 40GB. Would have to return those as well.
Other option would be to wait until next week to return my machine (currently working remotely and must have a working machine), upgrade to the 8-core i9, and wait the two weeks to receive it.
This does just seem like a small spec bump, but is it worth to return the "new" iMac for the newest model with the 6-core i5 and different ram (2666MHz vs 2400MHz)? Even purchased 3rd party ram for the new machine so I am running 40GB. Would have to return those as well.
Other option would be to wait until next week to return my machine (currently working remotely and must have a working machine), upgrade to the 8-core i9, and wait the two weeks to receive it.
No... And this is not my gripe...
My gripe is that they charge +$100 to downgrade to a 256GB SSD.
Had they made it a zero-sum, I'd probably be content.
For my needs, I'll be ordering a $1800 base model with 512GB SSD option and will toss an extra 4TB WD Blue in my NAS. I'll also place an order for a ~$200 32GB memory kit bring the machine to 40GB.
I'm really bummed by the lack of T2 co-processor. I'm bummed about the crappy webcam. I'm bummed about the two year old GPU. This would have been a nice workstation a year ago.
I'm probably in the minority with this comment, but how come they can still offer fusion drives in these machines and not in the Mini's? It would be nice to still have some sort of option for inexpensive internal storage... not everything needs to be on an SSD.
No room for any additional heat generating items. They moved from a 28w TDP CPU to a 65w TDP CPU in the same enclosure, something had to go and spinning rust was an easy mark. I think they did it to gauge consumer resistance to the uptick in cost and anyone using the apoplectic reactions of the users on these forums decided to give them a break.
I would expect the next iMac to be a complete redesign and it will jettison HDDs for an all SSD lineup which will cause a whole bunch of heads to explode. Again, you will need some popcorn and a disposable poncho. Treat yourself to a viewing of David's Cronenberg's "Scanners" for reference and research material.