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Also, I am not really worried about Touch ID or security chip.

I have Touch ID on my MacBook Pro and it is extremely convenient and more secure. I don't think I would own another computer without it (or Face ID).
 
OK I guess when you think about it logically this was what they were going to do since they want a bigger splash about the Mac Pro this year.
 
What don't you get? Do you really think the average consumer cares or can tell the difference between 5400, 7200, Fusion, and SSD?
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Well my parents are average consumers and even they can tell the difference between HDD and SSD. I think many people do notice these things whether they are tech-savy or not.
 
Is it me or have the prices gone up With updates. I can afford to wait for a totally new innovative redesign, at these prices it’s not like they are going to sell out ;).
 
Yeah it is an option i’ve Gone down.... but my argument to that is that Apple is meant to be a ‘it just works’, ‘premium’ and ‘offer the best experience’ company - having to buy an external add on just to make an allready expensive computer perform at a decent level is none of those things.
Totally agree with this. It's insulting to even offer it at this point -- and you have to wonder how many people have inadvertantly tried an iMac with a crusty old HDD on it and said "man, Macs are slow!"
 
Kinda strange the 27" starts with only the i5 and not a i7 considering it's price. And when you want to upgrade the cpu, you'll notice there isn't even a i7 option but you gotta go straight to the i9.

Not sure how well this cpu will do under heavy load. Will it throttle? They probably haven't done anything to the cooling but have given the faster cpu option which obviously produces more heat. The 'old' 27" with the i7 already gets really hot under heavy load.

+ off topic question: anyone knows what kind of lamp that is? :p

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the lamp is from menu, called jwda table lamp
 
I agree with these being quite nice updates.

Pros:
  • Up to 8-Core i9 CPU (this config could be faster than base iMac Pro on some video editing use cases due to quick sync)
  • Radeon Pro Vega 48 seems to be a capable card for a mainstream machine

Cons:
  • Same design (not only with the appearance but also cooling solution wise)
  • Same connectivity (could have been better with 4 TB3 + 2 USB-A, BT 5.0 and 1080p FaceTime camera could have been nice)

Yeah I'm torn between a $4200 iMac vs a refurbished $4250 base iMac Pro. The Pro probably has much better cooling, and 4 TB3 ports. I can always buy an external camera and speakers. We just have to wait for the benchmarks, I guess. I would be disappointed if the 8-Core was throttling after 2 seconds like the MacBook Pros did when they were initially released.
 
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Here are the new iMac's CPU choices, just for your reference before buying.

21.5" iMac
$1299.00 - Core i3-8100; A teardown will be needed to reveal if it is socketed or a soldered CPU (8100B)
$1499.00 - Core i5-8500; A teardown will be needed to reveal if it is socketed or a soldered CPU (8500B)
$1699.00 - Core i7-8700 (BTO option); A tear down will be needed to reveal if it is socketed or a soldered CPU (8700B)

27" iMac
$1799.00 - Core i5-8500
$1999.00 - Core i5-8600
$2299.00 - Core i5-9600K
$2799.00 - Core i9-9900K (BTO Option)

All of these CPUs support 128GB of DRAM officially (go check the ARK if you want to see it with your own eyes), which means that we should see "unofficial" support from OWC and others in the future, which is definitely a nice option for those who need that amount of DRAM. Based on current prices, a 128GB kit should run ~$1,000.00-$1,200.00 USD.

Do you have any info if performance difference between i5-8600 and i5-9600K is dramatic or just minor improvement?
 
I'm pretty excited about this update! The Intel i9-9900K is a beast of a processor, and looking at Geekbench results for what are likely Hackintoshes seems to compare favorably to the 10-core chip in the iMac Pro on multicore, and is even faster with single core. I ordered the i9 with the Vega 48, 2TB SSD, and 8GB RAM which I am upgrading to 40GB total using matched pairs of 16x2 and 4x2 (included) for an extra $200 or so. It's going to be a great machine which will hopefully last me a long time (5-7 years). I've created a discussion thread over in the iMac forum for users to talk about which configuration they ordered and I go into an explanation of why I ordered what I did: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-2019-imac-did-you-order.2173991/.

Compared to an iMac Pro 10-core (again, comparing multicore scores mentioned above) with 32GB RAM (I'll have 40GB), 2TB SSD and Vega 56 I'll be saving nearly $2000 for a machine that has a similar (multicore) or maybe even slightly better (single core) CPU, more RAM, same SSD, and slightly slower GPU. Sure there are higher end options like 10Gbit ethernet, UHS-II SD card slot, and the darker colorway—but I don't think those along with a GPU that is maybe around 15% faster justifies the extra $2000 expense. And actually since it's a desktop why not get a 10Gbit dongle (which I won't need until my current 1Gbps speeds increase in my area) and I already have the Apple USB-C to UHS-II SD card adapter which I've used with my iPad Pro. Overall this is a great upgrade and I can't wait for it to get here!
 
Bad timing to upgrade the iMac, this should have come a while ago. Intel has mainstream 6-core desktop processors for almost a year and a half now.

In October or November, some seven months from now, Intel is going to introduce the 10th gen of Core processors, maybe using the 10nm process. And AMD is introducing new video cards earlier than that.

That is what is really frustrating. There is no reason this update did not come 6 months ago!
 
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what do you use on that? I have 8GB on my 2015 and I've never had issues.
Terminal, Safari, Slack, Messages, Calendar, Mail is my standard working set. Eventually that will grind to a halt. If I add one of the Affinity apps to the mix or a modest Parallels VM, eventually takes a lot less time. Since upgrading past 10.12, I have to reboot every couple days. I would never have upgraded but Apple abandoned keeping security patches in sync for older releases, which presented an unacceptable risk.
 
Honestly this is a really solid update. I have my 2015, and I don't plan on buying an upgrade, but if I was to go out and get a new desktop today, this would be it. I have a fusion drive though, and I'd switch to an SSD for sure. Either way though, people clamoring for a new design, sure that would be great, but this thing is amazing as it is. The screen is the best damn screen you can buy (for a reasonable price) and for someone who runs a small business, it's the computer I always recommend. No t2 chip is a bit of a bummer, but I bet it's because they offer the fusion drive that keeps them back.
 
after these updates the mac mini looks better and better, sitting on an 09 imac 24in, not going down a screen size

a mac mini with 6core i7, ssd standard and 8gb of ram upgradable later for 1099, tough to beat that. i bet that configuration will outperform most of these updated imacs. To get this config with same processor but 256ssd you're at 1799, hardly worth it for extra hard drive space, yes i know no monitor but you can find a real good 4k for less than 800
 
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