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Apple Updates iMac Lineup With Up to 8-Core 9th-Gen Intel Processors and Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Options
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To still ship crap 5400 rpm platters and 8 gig RAM shows Tim and the rest of the exec are now just extracting the urine out of their customers.
To get today’s equivalent iMac of my 2007 version is twice the price. Technology is not meant to inflate. It’s just plain greed by Apple and sadly for them my current Mac is now near death and is being replaced by something from not-Apple. You’ve simply priced yourself out of the equation, Tim. Not that you can hear me up there on your sky high pile of dollars.
To get today’s equivalent iMac of my 2007 version is twice the price. Technology is not meant to inflate. It’s just plain greed by Apple and sadly for them my current Mac is now near death and is being replaced by something from not-Apple. You’ve simply priced yourself out of the equation, Tim. Not that you can hear me up there on your sky high pile of dollars.
Try to get a used 2015 or 2017 model with SSD. Those are still good machines, as long as they don't contain a rotating drive. Rotating drives take 3 minutes to boot, versus 2 seconds for a Windows PC with an SSD.
I don't usually jump on the negative comment bandwagon, but it's mind blowing to me that any PC maker would ship anything with a spinning platter drive anymore.
This is a technical treatise with regards to TDP and Intel thermals - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13544/why-intel-processors-draw-more-power-than-expected-tdp-turbo and specifically, the 9900K - https://www.anandtech.com/show/13591/the-intel-core-i9-9900k-at-95w-fixing-the-power-for-sff
The 2002 version was the peak if you ask me. Why can't we get phenomenal design like that anymore.
The modern version of the 2002 iMac is the Microsoft Surface Studio. It's painful that the Apple world doesn't have anything like that. A pen is not just for tablets.
Wow, the iMac that Apple could have shipped last summer is finally making an appearance
And hey, look at those storage options...
A 1TB HD was standard on the 27" model back in 2009.
Fast forward an entire decade and it's still a 1TB HD (albeit with a tiny scrap of SSD on the side now).
they could not have shipped that last summer, as the i9 was only available this past November. Can't wait to see how hot it gets under load. HAD I waited, I probably would have ordered one.
It wasn't available this past november. It was announced. There's a difference. This is apple with their hands tied behind their back by intel, not because they're lazy or don't care.
False.
The lame storage and ram options/prices are what he’s bitching about.
Neither of those things have anything to do with Intel.
I doubt that somehow. The iMac has had the same basic design since 2004, that's long before Steve died. The materials changed and it got thinner, but it's still the same display with a chin on a foot. It's a fairly mature design that, much like Macbooks doesn't need to change much. But after the iMac G4, arguably the best designed desktop ever, it is lacking. But even still, that would be fine if it wasn't so thin it can't be cooled properly or upgraded at all.
Exactly. I distinctly remember when the iMac G5 came out and it was SUCH a visual bore compared with the G4. A real downgrade. It went from coolest thing I had ever seen and lusted over (I was like 13 years old at the time) to a large white brick. What I would give for a modern redo of the G4 design. Elegant base with a large, swiveling Retina display. It could even be space gray.
The i9 will probably throttle within seconds to stay within the power consumption and cooling limits of the iMac. Complete waste of money in my opinion.
It's the truly ancient storage that ships in a $1300-1700 computer that boggles my mind. Today's 4K iMac comes with a drive that's slower than what Apple was shipping in 2009, the 5K iMac ships with the same capacity drive as the 2010 model and no matter how much money you want to give Apple there's no internal HD option bigger than what came in the 2011 Time Capsule.
Back in 2011 Apple put SSDs into their entry level notebook. Today desktop buyers still have to pay an upgrade fee to get an SSD.
Earth to Tim Cook... your Mac division appears to be stuck in 2011. Please buy them (and yourself) a new calendar.
By the definition of phenomenal. I would not have any complaints even if they had kept 2004 design in use.
I usually don't criticize Apple prices (Macs have usually been more expensive in the short term, but more affordable and economical in the long term, when you consider how much they last). However, there's one thing in the whole Mac product line that I think it's a wrong choice: they have "tuned" the prices of all iMacs, the Mini, and all MacBooks, so that it's not possible to order a 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM below 2800€. I think there should be Macs with 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM below that price (and yes, I own a 2018 MBP with such features, so I'm not a suspect for not paying Apple prices).
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That's what's called a genious design: Doesn't need to be changed...
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Probably not. These new iMacs would be running Mojave 10.14, and this shows 10.13.6 High Sierra.
What exactly needs changing? The inclusion of an HDD is insane, yes -- but what else about the design of the iMac "needs" a redesign? You say 10 years, but the iMac of 10 years ago was thicker, had a non-retina display, slower processors, storage, I/O ports, etc etc. It's not the same machine at all.
Until there's some giant paradigm shift, desktop computers have more or less hit their ideal form factor and we use them essentially the same way we used them 15 years ago: a vertical display about 2-3 feet from your face which you interact with through some horizontal control surfaces about a foot in front of you. I guess it's not exciting anymore, but it does seem to be a pretty good setup for sitting and getting work done for extended periods of time (and a hell of a lot better than a plain laptop, ergonomically). All the big design stuff is happening on the less-mature side of the market: iPads and iPhones. And even those have sort of settled into "it's a slab of glass with cameras on it".
I guess there's always cosmetic stuff to play with, but I'm fine with the fact that Apple hasn't gone down the road of making changes for the sake of change.
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You don't just put a touchscreen on a Mac and go "job done!" -- you'd have to rewrite the entire OS to be touch-based or you have just... something horrible.
Besides, there's already an Apple computer with a touch interface: it's called an iPad Pro.
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Looked great then. Looks great now. The only real complaint I can come up with is that you can't upgrade anything but (if you get the 27"), the RAM.
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For a Hackintosh, but not likely for an actual 2019 27" iMac.
No you don't rewrite the OS. The touch is only for scrolling/zooming. The pen is for drawing.