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Apple Updates iMac Lineup With Up to 8-Core 9th-Gen Intel Processors and Radeon Pro Vega Graphics Options

Apple was never going to bring out a whole new design iMac in 2019, when they have promised the new Mac Pro modular box.
Apple is a marketing company - you need to stagger the releases for maximum sales potential.
(P.S. it is great that Apple has acknowledged and acted on the global fall in ram prices).
 
I have a 140mm fan cooler on my i9 9900K and it's quiet and can keep up with the cooling. So I'll be curious and nervous how it fares in an AIO chassis.


IngaDW said:
I use photoshop a lot but I don’t know if I’ll get much use from the pro gpu. Should I get one with the iMac, or is it ok to wait to see if I need one, and then buy an external one?
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If it's just for photoshop than you don't need the Vega.
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loybond said:
Yeah, I'm wondering how much diff the Vega 48 makes over the 580x for things like Final Cut. It's a pretty hefty upgrade cost. I'm thinking the best config for me (in Canadian pricing) is the 8 core CPU/512 SSD/580x.
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For videographers, I would recommend the Vega. Wait for thermal reviews though. I don't think the current iMac chassis can dissipate heat enough for an i9 and Vega. Noise level also a concern.
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Black Tiger said:
What would significantly change if you were to redesign it. I keep hearing “drop the chin” but it’s iconic and balanced. Thinner bezels? Maybe but it would still look virtually the same. This is clearly the “look” Apple feels it has perfected.
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I've been using a LG ultrawide for the past 3 months, half the bezel size. I went into an electronics store recently, walked by the Apple section and took a glimpse of the iMac on display and immediately noticed the fat bezels when I stood in front of it :D

They could definitely trim the black bezels. The chin is indeed iconic and fine with me though. However it still has no ergonomics like height adjustment, etc.
 
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I don’t see the point of Face ID on an iMac. Just use Auto Unlock with the Apple Watch. Keeps the iMac simpler and a little cheaper. One less thing to go wrong. Works great.

The shape doesn’t bother me. The chin gives you someplace to stick your post-it notes. ;)

I’m more concerned about the thermal issues. This is a desk top, not a portable. You shouldn’t need to sacrifice speed when can easily deal with the heat.
 
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neuropsychguy said:
The new i3s are much faster than previous generation i3s (and beat out many i5s). Sure an i5 would have been a little better but 8th gen i3s are plenty of processing power for the overwhelming majority of people using the 21.5" iMacs.
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4 core is the bare minimum in 2019. It’s not 2016 anymore. i3-8100 is a $100 processor and 6 core is the norm now.
 
neutrino23 said:
I don’t see the point of Face ID on an iMac. Just use Auto Unlock with the Apple Watch. Keeps the iMac simpler and a little cheaper. One less thing to go wrong. Works great.

The shape doesn’t bother me. The chin gives you someplace to stick your post-it notes. ;)

I’m more concerned about the thermal issues. This is a desk top, not a portable. You shouldn’t need to sacrifice speed when can easily deal with the heat.
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Taking out hdd means pro cooling means super quietness means memorable user experience means happy customer means returning business means stream subscriber means ecosystem expansion

Cook and the post-Jobs don’t have the awareness where narratives flow
 
partsofspeech said:
Taking out hdd means pro cooling
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While I'm 100% for the removal of the HDD, the power consumption of a 2.5" 5400 RPM disk is somewhere between 1 to 3 watts, whereas SSDs range from .5 to 2.5 watts. The benefit gained from unobstructed airflow (with the drive removed) is likely larger than the TWP gains.

For perspective, the i5 8600 is 65w and the Radeon RX 570X is 120w.
 
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Black Tiger said:
What would significantly change if you were to redesign it. I keep hearing “drop the chin” but it’s iconic and balanced. Thinner bezels? Maybe but it would still look virtually the same. This is clearly the “look” Apple feels it has perfected.
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Yet the iMac still looks better than all of them. I’ll agree on the HD, but there is an education market for this product.
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I don't mind the chin, but the bezels are an issue to me. They make the computer unnecessarily big and just look dated. And yes, the Surface Studio 2 does look at lot better in my opinion - but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There may be an education market for Apple in the US, but definitely not in Europe - I've been a teacher with an IT background for quite some time now and know the European education market quite well. There are hardly any schools or universities here that still bet on Apple products. Microsoft has a firm grip on the education market, both hardware and software wise.
 
zorinlynx said:
Am I the only one who LOVES the iMac design and doesn't want it to change?

It's iconic and beautiful, and I can't find anything wrong with it visually. The last major revision, to make it thinner and lighter, pretty much perfected it.

The only thing I'd be happier with is better serviceability, but iMacs, especially with SSDs, have gotten so reliable that it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
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I personally don’t find anything anything wrong or dated about the current design. MAAYYYYBE thinner bezels but that’s me tryin to find something to change about it. In its present form, it’s still far more attractive than anything else being put out by other brands.
 
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Black Tiger said:
I’ll agree on the HD, but there is an education market for this product.
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It would make more sense to have the low-end education model have an HDD for the non-retina iMac only. The higher level Retina ones, I have a harder time seeing it... In other words, what education customer is going to say, Let's spring for Retina, but keep the HDD?
 
8CoreWhore said:
8BG RAM for $2300 computer? Nuts! The MBP comes with 16GB. Apple have their heads up their
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I agree that at least for top tier model if they also distunguish it by using 9th gen Intel instead of 8th gen, they should also provide 16 GB RAM as basic.
 
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How long do people usually keep their iMacs before upgrading? My 2017 27” 5k one was my first one.
 
Jacoblee23 said:
How long do people usually keep their iMacs before upgrading? My 2017 27” 5k one was my first one.
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iMac late 2013 here. Hard to edit 4K on it since my camera (Fuji X-T3) records 10 Bit HEVC H.265 with ALL-Intra Compression (Proxies all the way). Waiting for youtube thermal reviews of i9 + Vega :)
 
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How long do people usually keep their iMacs before upgrading? My 2017 27” 5k one was my first one.
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I would say 5-7 years should be optimum if you are normal user/prosumer. Of course, if you need to edit 8K videos and thousand of 46 MPx photos daily then maybe you would upgrade sooner when 16K video and 92 MPx photos will become the norm :D.

Btw I also have 2017 27 5K one and I bought it to last at least 5 years or until major redesign/refresh which will probably happen by same time anyway :rolleyes:
 
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neutrino23 said:
I don’t see the point of Face ID on an iMac. Just use Auto Unlock with the Apple Watch. Keeps the iMac simpler and a little cheaper. One less thing to go wrong. Works great.

The shape doesn’t bother me. The chin gives you someplace to stick your post-it notes. ;)

I’m more concerned about the thermal issues. This is a desk top, not a portable. You shouldn’t need to sacrifice speed when can easily deal with the heat.
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I actually do stick post it's and photos on my iMac Pro!:D
 
neutrino23 said:
I don’t see the point of Face ID on an iMac. Just use Auto Unlock with the Apple Watch. Keeps the iMac simpler and a little cheaper. One less thing to go wrong. Works great
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The value is for purchases that support Apple Pay, or things like 1Password that have a biometric security option.
 
MKevin3 said:
Apple says the new 21.5-inch iMac models deliver up to 60 percent faster performance than the previous generation, while the new 27-inch iMac models deliver up to 2.4 times faster performance than the previous generation, narrowing the gap between the high-end standard iMac and the iMac Pro workstation.

Why use two different speed comparison units? 60% then 2.4x is it just fun for marketing to confuse things?
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Which one sounds better: 0.6x better performance or 60%?
Former looks like downgrade.
And to present 2.4x in % is 160% more, so it looks like 1.6x.
Basic advertising.
 
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