I think both Forstall and Ive had a point. Forstall was pushing the bubbly realism too far, and it was becoming a bit out of style. Jonny Ive pushed them hard in the other direction, and it led to some great design, but he took it too far and it became a bit ugly at times too. Today I feel like we're seeing an Apple that's happy to balance both of these design languages. No need to make everything complex and realistic, and no need to avoid realism at all costs.There is nothing wrong with the icons. In fact, they are the same icons, just morphed into looking like iOS icons. That’s the part I don’t like, the uniqueness of macOS has been reduced and consumed into the universe of its mobile offspring. I missed the stand out uniqueness of photo realistic icons. It’s really what made OS X attractive. Seeing a representation of true life on screen.
Apple now considers that redundant and I believe it was Jony Ive who promoted this when explaining the abstract look of icons iOS 7 such as Game Center. Icons should hint what they do and at least with these three, you have an idea,
- the charts and cells in the background suggest this has something to do with numbers.
- the pen, quotation symbol and lines suggest this is a tool for writing.
- the podium and what looks like screens it slides is a program for preparing presentations.
I still do miss the unique icons from the old days though. The Adobe Photoshop 7 eye, the Quark Xpress lotus flower, the picture of the child at the beach in preview.
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Finished installing Big Sur here!Right now who gives a rat's behind when you can't even download & install Big Sur?
Well then you basically addressed your own question.So serious question: do people still use garage band? Like I played with it some when it first came out and then never really touched it again. Full disclosure: I am not a music person
If it's not working from the system menu, try going to the Big Sur page on the Apple site and click Update Now. I was getting update fails all over the place, but it seems to be working through that method now (although I'm not sure why it would make any difference).Right now who gives a rat's behind when you can't even download & install Big Sur?
Garageband is an amazing piece of software but if youre not a music person then i can see why it wouldn't be interesting to youSo serious question: do people still use garage band? Like I played with it some when it first came out and then never really touched it again. Full disclosure: I am not a music person
Garage Band is great, especially for beginners and the less inclined - it's basically the iMovie of audio editing, where Logic is the FCP. Enthusiasts will probably get into Logic or Ableton, etc, but not everyone has the time or need or willingness to learn what it takes to use those properly.So serious question: do people still use garage band? Like I played with it some when it first came out and then never really touched it again. Full disclosure: I am not a music person
I believe Big Sur changes a lot of the ways MacOS handles audio. I don't know why that wouldn't also affect iMovie, but I've heard that a lot of popular audio-based apps aren't ready for Big Sur yet specifically because of those changes. That's just what I've read/heard though, I may be wrong.Just updated to the new iMovie as well on Catalina, i am still baffled as to why i can't update to the new garageband as it requires Big Sur
I get that but if that was truly the case then iMovie wouldn't be compatible with Catalina as well and we know that it is as i just updated iMovie on CatalinaI believe Big Sur changes a lot of the ways MacOS handles audio. I don't know why that wouldn't also affect iMovie, but I've heard that a lot of popular audio-based apps aren't ready for Big Sur yet specifically because of those changes. That's just what I've read/heard though, I may be wrong.
I'm all set. I changed my MacBook Pro's DNS from my ISP's to CloudFlare's — at least until it was done downloading.If it's not working from the system menu, try going to the Big Sur page on the Apple site and click Update Now. I was getting update fails all over the place, but it seems to be working through that method now (although I'm not sure why it would make any difference).
I, too, am not a music person... or at least a person with music talent. But I do remember loving making (royalty-free) loop-based songs with Soundtrack, back in the day. (They all ended up more or less aping the Lemon Jelly schtick of just layering on more and more loops, but hey, what a great schtick that was!So serious question: do people still use garage band? Like I played with it some when it first came out and then never really touched it again. Full disclosure: I am not a music person
Not for Logic Pro, that's installing fine for me on Catalina. I assume the same is true for FCP being part of the Pro Apps bundle, but I don't have it on this system.Why is BigSur required for the new Garageband? Is BigSur also required for the new Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro updates that were released today?
Not my cup of tea personally. I actually don't mind some really simple skeuomorphism, but clean and with a flat design. These icons are busy yo!
I love the overall look of Big Sur but those icons are butt.
I don't understand why Apple is producing such poor quality icons all of a sudden. These just look so bad :/
Can we go back to a visually pleasing skeuomorphism design language now
They are actually disgusting.
No wait... they are ****!
I love, love, love iWork.
Those icons suck. They had better ones in some of the test versions. Such a shame.
If you go through the Big Sur page on Apple’s site it will take you to the update in the App Store.Not turning up as an App Store update for me..yet.
he uniqueness of macOS has been reduced and consumed into the universe of its mobile offspring
Cheers. I actually was able to fix it by opening the App Store and selecting Store > Reload Page.If you go through the Big Sur page on Apple’s site it will take you to the update in the App Store.
Personally, I don’t have any fundamental problem with the convergence of the 2 (or 3 or 4 or whatever, if we count all the flavors of iOS) OSes (especially given that they’ll both be running on closely-related hardware before to all)... and long as the result doesn’t suck.That's because they are preparing to merge iPadOS with MacOS, even if all they do is deny it. iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard, switching Macs to ARM, subtle design language changes, running mobile apps on Mac... the merge is coming.