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Oh, updated? Let me check if I can paste a Wikipedia table perfectly. But oh yeah, I need to install them....

Well, at least, a good try.
 
It's also $6.99 more than what I payed for iWork. . . and my College gives me a free Office student subscription.
But unfortunately, it doesn't provide Microsoft Access. And I need to purchase Microsoft Visio and Project individually.

I know here is a free DreamSpark version, but I doubt Microsoft will allow you to install on new computer without much effort. Plus I am tired about playing around with activation.
 
What are you talking about? Apps have to be updated to support Multitasking. Observe:

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Microsoft word still don't support split view feature.
And why there is no app capable of using split view in your second screenshot?
 
How is it easier to recognize them, and how does having a pointing device change that?

Personally I wish Apple would just enforce iOS style icons on the Mac (or something similar). The state of icons on the Mac is pretty inconsistent/bad right now, and I'm not a fan of using a third party solutions to correct it (which, it should be mentioned, gets harder with every OS update).

Your brain is better wired to detect shapes when they are distinct. This is more important with a mouse because there is an abstract layer involved; you aren't directly manipulating the screen. (Though I'd love it if iOS ditched the squares.)
 
This is great news for me. I much prefer pages and keynote over Word and PP for what I need to do with them. I create a vast amount of educational material and in that respect both Apple apps are night and day better than their MS counterpart. I only wish Keynote could create jeopardy style templates - where the tile is live and can move to another slide and comeback preserving the changes just made. For that, I have to keep using PP, but it's so much more difficult to be creative with PP compared to KN. Numerous times I've had students ask me the name of the "app" I'm using only to find out I created them (in keynote) and be shocked. I've never had students say that with one of my PP presentations unfortunately.
I have seen a lecturer using libreoffice to create lecture presentation. The result is not so good but this also shocks me a lot.

PS: this lecturer use Linux.
 
Well gee whiz. We don't know why this happened. Perhaps there is a good reason. Perhaps they intended to have it ready, but found a last minute issue. Let's not forget that the watch software was delayed a week due to a last minute issue. Let's just bash apple without knowing why this occurred. And BTW, big deal. It wasn't the end of the world. apple released when it was ready, not when you expected them to release. I'm glad apple isn't trying to satisfy you. If they did, they might have some serious issues.

I specifically said that I wasn't bashing Apple. I also said that their iWork products DON'T satisfy me, which is why I don't use them.

I merely commented on two things. First, I am tired of some people saying that iWork is so much better than MS Office, when this is debatable (though, I don't really think there is a question here, but whatever), when the main reason MS Office is dominant is its compatibility rather than features. Second, there are a lot of people on here who would bash MS for doing something like this, whereas Apple gets a free pass.

Even you are doing it... For MS this would be deplorable, but since Apple is doing it you are claiming it is part of the quality experience that Apple provides. Quality experience, to me, would have been having all first-party software compatible on day one. That is one of the major benefits of buying into Apple's closed eco-system. I can only say that I am thankful that the ecosystem isn't so closed yet that I don't have real, viable alternatives for office software.

And finally, Apple SHOULD be trying to satisfy customers, though you seem to think this isn't their main purpose. Sure, their iWork suite probably won't ever satisfy me, but there is little doubt that my way of day one first-party software support is a better business practice than what you propose (which is: Apple can do whatever it wants and I will just take it, because its better for me to just not think about it). Have fun with that.
 
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Thank you so much for posting YOUR opinion because mine greatly differs. I use Pages to create the banners and flyers for my business office, which also are used on my website. Pages has amazingly professional looking graphics to dress up documents. Word sucks when it comes to graphic design and banner creation. Has the same old ugly look as Publisher.

So, in your case iWork works... You only make documents for yourself, in which case almost any word processor you want will work. But for the majority of the world, our documents must be shared with others. Which is why MS Office is the standard (for better or for worse).
 
Keynote and Pages have gained support for opening presentations and documents from 2006 and 2008 versions of the software, while Numbers is now able to open Numbers '08 spreadsheets.


Thank you Apple. This was long long overdue and I didn't expect it. I thought you just give a rats ass about everyone's legacy documents but I was wrong.
 
Yes!!! It works on iOS 8.4 :D was worried I wasn't going to be able to update to it on my Mac (el capitan) as I haven't updated my iPad.
 
… and, finally, "iWork for iCloud works with Safari 6.0.3 or later". Good news for OS X Mountain Lion users.
 
All I noticed or cared about in the update notes was:
'Open Pages '08 and '06 documents'

FINALLY
But, it's probably too late, as any documents that old have probably either been lost, or already migrated using Pages '09.

Finally yes. And guess what. I just recently searched for all old versions and converted them with the 09 suite which I can then open again.

Still better late then never. Apple is notoriously bad when it comes to legacy files.

Same for old FCP projects.
 
So, in your case iWork works... You only make documents for yourself, in which case almost any word processor you want will work. But for the majority of the world, our documents must be shared with others. Which is why MS Office is the standard (for better or for worse).

Luckily I rarely have to share documents to anyone for them to edit - My Mum on the other hand works in an MS Office based environment so using pages/keynote is not an option for her.

I agree for a lot of people, iWork all just not work.
 
iWork has been stagnate since iWork '09. It's a neat concept since it's free but it doesn't go much further.

You are 100% incorrect. When was the last time you've actually tired using iWork? It is much simpler to use than office for most common tasks.
 
You are 100% incorrect. When was the last time you've actually tired using iWork? It is much simpler to use than office for most common tasks.

He's taking about features. After '09, a lot of features were stripped away (because it got rewritten) and are only just now starting to crawl back.
 
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I'm surprised Apple is still charging for people on older devices...

My girlfriend missed the changeover date by 1 week when she bought her MacBook Air.

I tried to get them to honour it since it was within the return period but they wouldn't and she lost interest in the suite.

Only for very old hardware.....

I think we got hers two years ago this month, and see above ^.
 
The functionality of Pages needs to be stepped up massively. It's preferable to Word for long documents given how well-optimised it is for the Mac, but there's a lot missing. Just a few of these features would be nice: linkable text within a document (no, not web links), being able to highlight separate areas of text with Command-click & drag, etc. I wrote a 250-page research document within Pages, and these are some of the things I desperately missed! Otherwise, even compared to Word 2016, it's extremely smooth and great if you have to scroll through a huge document (linkable text would make this much less time-consuming, though).
 
he functionality of Pages needs to be stepped up massively. It's preferable to Word for long documents given how well-optimised it is for the Mac, but there's a lot missing. Just a few of these features would be nice: linkable text within a document (no, not web links), being able to highlight separate areas of text with Command-click & drag, etc. I wrote a 250-page research document within Pages, and these are some of the things I desperately missed! Otherwise, even compared to Word 2016, it's extremely smooth and great if you have to scroll through a huge document (linkable text would make this much less time-consuming, though).

I agree, its smoother and uses less battery than office and it starts much faster than office, but its still missing functionality Apple took out in 2013... which is super annoying.
 
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