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So does this mean we can play C&C 3, since it has a beefed up video card? Apple specifically states on the game page that it won't work on the GMA950,but nothing on the new one. Thanks
 
I don't understand you people, have you been lobotomized ? I totally agree with you ! Macs are more expensive, but they're more stable. Period. (btw, i didn't think the urban legend of the "blue screen of death" has survived so far... people, go check XP or Vista, there's not a such thing anymore...)

If you're agreeing with people that Macs are more stable and better, then why did you state:

people buy Macs only because they LOOK better and feel more STABLE. Thyat's f...g all

"feel[ing] stable" and "being stable" are two entirely different points. Macs don't just "feel stable", they "are stable".

As for Vista not having a "blue screen of death" or that "legend", sorry to tell yeah, but XP is much more stable than Vista currently, and XP isn't that stable as it is. As I have to use Vista for AutoCAD, I boot into it on a slave drive on my Mac Pro. It took a while to get the system functioning fully as the proper drivers weren't included with Vista.

What you need to understand is that Apple sells the hardware exclusively with each system. This control of sales is to avoid exactly what Windows and Microsoft have failed in doing: selling stable systems. As each system is unique in its components, the device drivers may not be included with the Windows system software, and getting the correct drivers is essential in system stability. If the price is paying more for a system that is stable then I will gladly do so. The reason Dell's and such are cheaper is they just sell the HARDWARE. Dell does not make Windows, and Windows doesn't come with a lot of the software that an Apple system has pre-installed. Certainly I am going to pay more for my Mac, in the end, "it just works".
 
Again : let's compare a Macbook with a Dell.

Macbook, first price : 1,099 $.

Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo (2.0GHz)
Hard drive : 80 GB
Memory : 1 GB
Optical : combo drive (NO burning).
Display : 13.3 inch
Video : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Weight : 5.0 pds

Dell, 1,024 $ : Inspiron 1420

Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo (2.2GHz)
Hard drive : 160 GB
Memory : 2 GB
Optical : CD/DVD burner
Display : 14.1 inch
Video : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Weight : 5.39 pds

And one important thing : you have to wait until January to get a version of Office that's actually made for the new Macs. That's why Office is so slow on Intel Macs today. Another reason to wait.

You forgot to add the Unlimited version of Vista (unlimited version of Leopard ships with the Macbook).
You also forgot the integrated bluetooth module (included with the mac).
And the remote.
And the webcam.
And the 30 day phone support...
I got $1,241 for the 2.0 core 2 duo model. So for $242 I can get a bigger hard drive to put into the macbook (and have the old one as a spare - or sell it), get more ram (that I can actually use and not lose to the system) and maybe even get an internal dvd burner for it (certainly get an external one).
PLUS, when I get a new one, I can sell this one for almost what I paid for it next year. While the Dell will be worthless.
 
Again : let's compare a Macbook with a Dell.

Macbook, first price : 1,099 $.

Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo (2.0GHz)
Hard drive : 80 GB
Memory : 1 GB
Optical : combo drive (NO burning).
Display : 13.3 inch
Video : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Weight : 5.0 pds

Dell, 1,024 $ : Inspiron 1420

Processor : Intel Core 2 Duo (2.2GHz)
Hard drive : 160 GB
Memory : 2 GB
Optical : CD/DVD burner
Display : 14.1 inch
Video : Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
Weight : 5.39 pds

And one important thing : you have to wait until January to get a version of Office that's actually made for the new Macs. That's why Office is so slow on Intel Macs today. Another reason to wait.

Dude, stop reposting the same stupid post over and over. It's not only about the hardware: it's also about the OS and all of the software (iLife, etc) that the MacBook comes with.
 
So install OS X on the Dell

I'm going to on my old PC.

That doesn't work well because Apple sells the software with specific hardware, ensuring that all the device drivers are working properly and fully upon installation and use. In order to get OS X to run on a beige box, it would take time in figuring out what devices are running and which drivers are needed to get those devices to communicate properly with the OS. Also, some of the necessary device drivers might not be coded to function in the OS X environment. This is precisely why Apple sells the hardware with the software, controlling what goes into the machine is essential to how the system software functions.
 
Can anyone speak to what are good sources/sites for buying a harddisk drive to update? I see tha Crucial is great for RAM - what are recommendations for HDD that would save me some $ doing it myself and not waiting to order an upgraded machine from the apple website?

Thanks!

-A


"There is nothing easier than upgrading the harddisk on a MacBook. Buy a 250GB SATA harddisk (make sure it is 9mm high, not 12mm) and a USB SATA case. Move the old harddisk into the SATA case, put the new one in the MacBook, boot from the USB disk, start Disk Utility and copy the old disk over to the new one, reboot, done. Costs about £105, plus you end up with a spare external disk. And nothing in this process voids your warranty."
 
Good news in MyBook

You know what this means right?

It's actually good news that Apple just did a quiet and slight upgrade. It only shows me that brand spanking new MacBooks are coming at MacWorld. They probably won't ship right away, but be announced.

If Apple actually upgraded the screen, keyboard and casing just now, then brand spanking new MacBooks would not be a candidate for MacWorld in January, but now since it's just a processor boost, there's definitely a great chance of MacWorld introducing a whole new MacBook family, including a ultra small one and maybe even a 18 to 19 inch. I see the new MacBook Pros coming in black this time. Man, I wish they could be touch screen this time like a blown up iPhone, but doubt it. I think they will have the multi-touch finger pad instead.

Can't wait for January. I'll be there.


-brian :)
 
It really is sad that Apple is using the worst of the worst GPUs and still charging a premium for it.

You have a point, but keep in mind that yesterday Apple was selling macBooks with GMA 950.

X3100 is definitely low end but I think, for most of us, acceptable.

Apple is still selling macMinis with GMA 950. That could qualify for "worst of the worst" GPU.
 
So install OS X on the Dell

I'm going to on my old PC.

PC's with Mac OS X are a big ball of mud...

Is like to put a ferrari motor in a mini :p the pieces don't fit , they aren't optimize, no decente drivers and ilegal...

Better some dell with linux or if you want mac os x buy a mac, if you don't like apple hardware , oh well :rolleyes: just by Dell's and go to DellRumors.com and don't bother us.:apple:
 
Can anyone speak to what are good sources/sites for buying a harddisk drive to update? I see tha Crucial is great for RAM - what are recommendations for HDD that would save me some $ doing it myself and not waiting to order an upgraded machine from the apple website?

Thanks!

-A

I can't tell you about specific sites, but I can warn you against LaCie. This is one of the few things about Apple I dislike, and that is the apparent support for LaCie external HDD's. I have seen numerous, and I mean NUMEROUS, LaCie drives fail. They have to be one of the most unstable HDD manufacturers I have ever experienced.

Personally, I would get a Western Digital drive, making certain if it is an internal drive, such as a slave drive for a Mac Pro, that it is Serial ATA. Otherwise, FireWire 800 is the best way to go for an external drive (and I don't know why Apple seems to be dropping FireWire 800 support for FireWire 400, although at least machines still have "a" FireWire 800 port). I also believe Mac's ship with Western Digital drives.
 
So, any word on the gaming performance (if any) of these?

Now the Mac Mini looks awful...
 
So install OS X on the Dell

I'm going to on my old PC.

Heh, from the looks of the tutorial, the average person is going to find that the PC install of OS X costs them more in time than the marginal cost of just purchasing a Mac, and getting a more tightly integrated, superbly designed product.

I can't think of the last time I sent in any Mac hardware for repair. I wonder if the third party components that fail Apple's quality control get sent to HP...
 
I just may get one in December, any one has numbers as to how it compares with my old 15" PB 1.67?

I do very little gaming so the embeded GPU is not an issue and it is a lot cheaper than the MacBook PRO.
 
PC's with Mac OS X are a big ball of mud...

Is like to put a ferrari motor in a mini :p the pieces don't fit , they aren't optimize, no decente drivers and ilegal...

Better some dell with linux or if you want mac os x buy a mac, if you don't like apple hardware , oh well :rolleyes: just by Dell's and go to DellRumors.com and don't bother us.:apple:

Try it before you knock it. My machine is 100% compatible under 10.4 and 10.5 and ive only had one kernel panic in about ten months. And I was the cause of the kernel panic. If the hardware is chosen specifically for the application at hand, it's really a piece of cake to get running.

Apple computers are about 80% marketing and 20% OS X. Its all Intel hardware, same stuff thats in the Dells. Its just you people pay more for it. All that said, look at my sig before flaming.
 
Let's be fair. Let's compare a Macbook with a Dell.

Macbook, first price : 1,099 $.

Dell, 1,024 $ : Inspiron 1420

Please, make your own conclusions.

Glad to see that you factored in the Operating System, Included Software and Overall Design.

My work computer is a Dell Latitude D820. It is absolute rubbish, and that line is meant to be above the Inspiron. Awful design. Windows sucks (admittedly it is XP, but people seem to be preferring that over Vista!) so much. Hibernating/Suspend is very hit and miss. Wireless appears tacked on. Screen has a dead pixel in the centre. The keyboard lettering is poor - transfers. That's an 8 week old computer.
 
The press hasn't picked up on any of this yet, largely because Apple hasn't put out any press release of the upgrades.

Fired off an email to Marketwatch about the updates, specifying MacRumors as the source.
 
Try it before you knock it. My machine is 100% compatible under 10.4 and 10.5 and ive only had one kernel panic in about ten months. And I was the cause of the kernel panic. If the hardware is chosen specifically for the application at hand, it's really a piece of cake to get running.

Apple computers are about 80% marketing and 20% OS X. Its all Intel hardware, same stuff thats in the Dells. Its just you people pay more for it. All that said, look at my sig before flaming.

I used to (and at times still do) build beige boxes. It's great that you have figured out how to get OS X running with the correct spec's and device drivers, however the "average" computer user doesn't:

1. Know how to build a system from scratch
2. Hack an OS to run on a system it's not manufactured for
3. know how to locate and run the proper device drivers under Windows let alone a Hackintosh

Further, if anything were to happen, such as a device failure, there is no phone or tech support that may help you beyond what you are able to fix. Also, beige boxes are just ugly. The aesthetics and beauty of Apple products due in large part to industrial designer Jonathan Ive is a large reason why Apple products are superior. I'd take my aluminum display, keyboard and Mac Pro with fewer wires and "eye sores" over a beige box (or even a Lian-Li aluminum tower, which is as close to any thing decent in the after market computer supply industry as you can get).
 
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