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Apple Updates MacBooks to Santa Rosa, GMA X3100

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ck2 said:
I ordered my new MacBook last Friday and estimate delivery time is from 16-19 Nov.
Just wonder why it takes so long as I thought the new one was already in the shop...
Can't wait..:(
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Often, newly announced hardware is not immediately available. If the Apple Stores have some in stock, and yours was not a custom order, you can always purchase one at the store and cancel your delayed shipment.
 
older models - UK

Do any UK members know how, or even whether it is possible to pick up older macbooks (still new) at a reduced rate since they've updated the range?
Thanks.
 
Everyone seems to go for the 2.2 model.
Why? For the dvd-burner? Or do you think the extra 200mhz is worth the price?
In sweden, atleast, buying the low-end model, and buy and install 2gb memory and 160 gb hdd yourself is cheaper than the mid-model.

Excuse my english :rolleyes:
 
Hard drive & leopard

Just got a macbook with 120 hard drive. Noticed that about 27Gb is already used up. Seems a bit much. Leopard and Ilife take that much up?
 
jaqob said:
Everyone seems to go for the 2.2 model.
Why? For the dvd-burner? Or do you think the extra 200mhz is worth the price?
In sweden, atleast, buying the low-end model, and buy and install 2gb memory and 160 gb hdd yourself is cheaper than the mid-model.

Excuse my english :rolleyes:
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Hi,

Good point. It used to be that buying the entry level Mac meant the chip was crippled in L2 cache or something like that. In this case the chip is just a bit slower.

Usually I suggest getting mid-model of the Mac's, but if you can up the memory and hdd for less than the mid 'book then it is a good choice.

Thanks for raising that to my attention.

s.
 
This update was very dissapointing... no LED screens and STILL a damn combo drive. Ok, I can understand the LED part if apple is working on a fresh design for the MB and is waiting until then to add the LED screens. I guess that makes sense even though it is dissapointing... but asking for $1,100 for a computer which cannot even record to a dvd is pathetic. I'm sure apple could add something extra to the mid-range model if they wanted there to be a bigger difference between them.

I really think it is only a matter of time before apple will have to release a macosx version for standard computers instead of forcing customers to use their computers. Yes they will loose some sales on their current computers but their software sales will go up. Imagine, paying $130 for a full featured os, or paying over $300 (windows)... doing so will also encourage hardware developers to write mac drivers so then we can use the hardware WE want instead of what THEY feel we should buy so they can over charge on hardware. Apple does come up with some very innovative hardware designs, so as long as they don't charge way too much and they give people what they want, their hardware sales should continue. Besides, there are plenty of mac fanatics who will buy apple's computers anyway, even if they are overpriced by at least 20%. Funny how they want us to "think outside the box"... just so long as we use their box. ;)
 
CreepyArcade said:
I really think it is only a matter of time before apple will have to release a macosx version for standard computers instead of forcing customers to use their computers. Yes they will loose some sales on their current computers but their software sales will go up. Imagine, paying $130 for a full featured os, or paying over $300 (windows)... doing so will also encourage hardware developers to write mac drivers so then we can use the hardware WE want instead of what THEY feel we should buy so they can over charge and make more money. Besides, there are plenty of mac fanatics who will buy apple's computers anyway, even if they are overpriced by at least 20%. At that point, the only way I think apple would be hurt is if vast amounts of people pirate their OS. Funny how they want us to "think outside the box"... just so long as we use their box. ;)
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Won't happen until they stop making huge profits in the hardware.
M$ sells windows for that much because they don't get any profit off of the hardware that runs it. Apple get $ off of the hardware, so they can sell the software cheaper.
I can see a day when Mac OS is open to any and all, but that is far, far away.
 
eXoticon said:
You don't consider Santa Rosa an update? It's a completely different and much better architecture than the previous MB.
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The average person won't understand any of that. The only thing they'll see is the .04 increase in speed. For Apple, it is not worth mentioning.
 
just bought a MB midrange model. Got buyers remorse now.:(
I'm feeling i grossly overpaid for this computer. Might sell on ebay if this feeling doesn't go away.
 
i just bought the lowest end model...
i already have a dvd burner on my pc and don't really burn any data. thats what flash drives are for.

Apple just wanted my money so I could upgrade to a super drive and what...an extra .2GHz...lol

i just upgraded the HD to 120 :)
 
eXoticon said:
You don't consider Santa Rosa an update? It's a completely different and much better architecture than the previous MB.
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I think the SR based chipset is impressive, but more so if Penryn is used. As it is now SSE 4.1 isn't supported, and unless wiki is mistaken the FSB switching is only supported by M0 steppings of Merom which seem to top out at 2.0Ghz. Mobile Penryn doesn't seem to be coming out till January (again according to wiki).

MacinDoc said:
Yes,the higher RAM ceiling alone can significantly increase the MacBook's speed, even with little change in clock speed. And the graphics are, if not great, at least considerably better than they were. Add to that the improved power management of SR, and you have a winner of a consumer notebook.
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Wait I thought the ceiling went from 3GB to 4GB? I conceed the power management, but it will get better as soon as Intel separates/decouples the Cores VDD and multiplier (Montevina) as that is better than FSB throttling (IMHO).
 
seattle said:
Does anyone with a new Macbook know if the iSight is the same as the one in the new iMacs?
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Apple System profiler returns the exact same strings for both the new and old macbook. That probably means they are the same.

[edit: oops, you asked for a comparison with iMacs. I didn't check an iMac iSight.]
 
zman76 said:
just bought a MB midrange model. Got buyers remorse now.:(
I'm feeling i grossly overpaid for this computer. Might sell on ebay if this feeling doesn't go away.
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The feeling will pass, as of now you need a mac computer to run osx and the midrange mb seems pretty good. i hope i didn't scare you with my comments above haha. just be happy, i felt bad after buying a $2,200 keyboard but i still love playing with it... :D i know a lot of people want a new case but i kinda like the plastic one...
 
With Apple's track record and our overshot expectations, I doubt a new macbook is coming out in January. I even doubt that the design will be updated in the Fall. It looks like plastic is going to stay on the consumer model laptops, and incremental advances in chip speed and hard drive size will be the norm for at least another year and a half.
 
Buying Macbook

I tried to buy the Macbook this weekend from Tekserv but they didn't have them and in fact their database was down. They said they wouldn't have them for a week or maybe two. I tried to support the little independent guy, but since I work about four blocks from a 24-hour apple store, I think I'm just going to walk in there and get one sometime this week. On the fence about getting the low end or mid range. The increase in HD drive space to 120 megs is a must for me, but I have a dvd burner on my desktop so I'm not sure of the value in having it in my laptop. I will probably get it because once I do the hard drive upgrade we will be talking about only a $125 difference, which is neglible. But I might prefer the 2.0 ghz version if it ran a little cooler and didn't have to turn the fan on as much (so therefore quieter). Anyone have any thoughts about that? I will eventually be upgrading memory to 4 gb, so performance should be decent and about the same between 2 and 2.2 ghz.

Also, does anyone know any substantive reviews yet on this refresh? I'd like to get a little comfort that things like the screen is just as good as before or anything like that. I suspect it is all fine, but I'd feel better if I could find on the web a hands on review by a knowledgeable source.
 
drchipinski said:
As someone who does more reading than posting, I find your replies quite rude and to be honest not needed. If you decide to be all Mac all the time, that is fine. BUT there are reasons that people use Windows....

Telling people to shut the hell up because their opinion differs from yours is just wrong.

I am stepping off of my soap box now.
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Yes? So please tell him the same thing, as I hate having to respond to personal diatribes. I manifest my preferences very clearly, and I exactly defend the platform that I prefer, without mentioning names or singling out people. So others should respect my fondness for Apple products as well.

The fact that I am a Mac-fan should suffice and I won't change anytime soon; if others prefer Windows, so be it...just leave me with my preferences.

Anyway, back on topic...does anyone know of a X3100 GFX review for the new MBP? Thank you.
 
i just want to ask if is there any other updates this holiday or this coming january coz im planning to buy the new MB within this month if they doesnt have any updates...
 
djclint said:
i just want to ask if is there any other updates this holiday or this coming january coz im planning to buy the new MB within this month if they doesnt have any updates...
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Apple may or may not add Penryn to the iMac/MBP/MB line in January. At least that is supposedly when it will be released for mobile platforms.
 
My first post, and my first Mac :D

I just got the previous model, (2.16 with dvd-burner).

I paid only U$999, I got one refurbished (plus U$100 amex discount).

I wouldn't pay U$1,299 for this upgrade.

That's it, now I'm a :apple:
 
Yeah! I ordered my macbook last friday morning and since I don't have a credit card I use pay in advance. This monday I got 2 mails: order ready for shipment around 11 o'clock and order shipped around 4 o'clock. right now it's being shipped by UPS to me and it will be here tomorrow (or so the order says). BTW I live in the Netherlands and I ordered the normal 2,2 gHz model without any custom options (who's gonna pay €850,- for 4 GB of ram anyway?).
 
i ordered the mid range with the 250 hdd but just 1gb of ram because i found on crucial for 4gb its less than the 2gb upgrade on apple. £500 for 4gb yer right apple! yer mine is being shipped around the 16th meh all this waiting meh well at least mine is full spec now lmao.
 
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