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Apple Updates Privacy Policy to Disclose Real-Time Location Tracking of Devices
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Just in case anyone is wondering...
Standard targeting options on the iAd Network include:
* Demographics
* Application preferences
* Music passions
* Movie genre interests
* Television genre interests
* Location
Standard metrics include:
* Impressions
* Clicks (taps) and Click-through rate
* Visits
* Page views and pages per visit
* Interactions (videos viewed, images viewed, etc.)
* Average time spent per ad
* Social pass-alongs
* Conversions and downloads
See also:
http://advertising.apple.com/
http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/
Standard targeting options on the iAd Network include:
* Demographics
* Application preferences
* Music passions
* Movie genre interests
* Television genre interests
* Location
Standard metrics include:
* Impressions
* Clicks (taps) and Click-through rate
* Visits
* Page views and pages per visit
* Interactions (videos viewed, images viewed, etc.)
* Average time spent per ad
* Social pass-alongs
* Conversions and downloads
See also:
http://advertising.apple.com/
http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/
Just turn off Location Services when you're at home or your mistress's apartment. End of story.So they know that my iPhone is at my house but they can't personally ID me?.......not that reassuring....
That's what the "Find My iPhone" functionality does. It still requires you to opt-in by configuring the device and enabling the service. Also, Apple is not a law enforcement organization. It's up to you do decide what to do with the search results (e.g., notifying your local authorities).
Not a good idea:
1) Disabling Location Services in any app, including Maps or Safari, will also hamper when you want or need to use a GEO Tagging.
2) The Location Services – in Safari – can help track a lost or stolen iPhone and as such should always be on (have a GEO Tagging enabled home page setup in Safari and you won't need MobileME to locate it).
3) The end user should always be in control, with a cookie free opt-in option, instead of the current cookie based opt-out option offered.
Apparently, I'm not running iOS4.
Which basically means that you and your handset data are owned by the iAd network already; later/more data can be added when it comes available!!!
Welcome to the world of iAd
maybe a better way of putting is google is more predictiable so I trust them. I have ZERO faith in apple not turning around and changing how they word theres and to do things I would not want them to it it wiht.
Apple made a huge deal about location based stuff being sold off in the past and that infomation was just down to the city level for the ads.
Apple turns around and gets even more exact. Sorry does not sit well with me when you preach about privancy out one end and then turn around and do worse than what you complained about. I do not trust apple. End of story. Apple history shows them to be VERY untrustworthy.
Apple has and will backstab their partners for their own good. APple is not a company to be trusted.
Way to deflect there.
Apple apologists: "B-b-b-but others are doing it, too!"
me: This doesn't help me!
And about the uproar-- I point out the hypocrisy of:
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/21/ios-4-addresses-over-60-security-vulnerabilities/
Someone pats Apple on the back for doing the right thing about plugging holes, but would trash Microsoft a few days before or after for doing the same thing saying "get your s**t together!".
I love this place.
If this were a similar article about Google, you'd have hundreds of people saying f*** Google, I'll never use their services again! Now that it's Apple, it's all, who cares if they know that you're going for coffee! I trust Apple completely!
If this were a similar article about Google, you'd have hundreds of people saying f*** Google, I'll never use their services again! Now that it's Apple, it's all, who cares if they know that you're going for coffee! I trust Apple completely!
Perhaps unbelievably to you, I actually do not like that 911 tracking is involuntary. Maybe I'd leave it on, maybe I wouldn't, but I want to make the decision myself. A simple analogy: if every room of my house had cameras monitored by the police, I'd be much less likely to die of an accident or heart attack. I might even opt to have such a service, were it available -- as some old folks do. But I certainly do not want to be involuntarily committed to such surveillance. Nor do I want the "option" of living in a shack if, eventually, every house is built with such an involuntary monitor. (Ie, yes, I'll still be unhappy with Apple if every single smart phone out there records your location.) It's amazing the difference making something involuntary makes.
Furthermore, just because I am forced to compromise my principles in one domain (forced 911 tracking), doesn't mean I therefore give up my resistance to such tactics in other domains. Funny how so many people are so dubious of the government's ability to spend effectively on social services like welfare, health care, etc, but at the same time are perfectly happy to give that same government the keys to your every personal detail.
The question "should you?" rather than just because you can.
I like the idea of adverts that aren't porn etc.. but at the same time I don't like the idea that people can misuse the information to map out my daily life then make decisions regarding insurance etc based on it.
Conspiracy theorists UNITE!
I'm not too worried about whether or not companies know where I am; I have nothing to hide, nor do I do anything (too) illegal.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely don't support it, I'm just accepting the inevitable, because it's only a matter of time before it's 10x worse than advertising agaencies tracking you. lol
You have nothing to hide? At some point you will make a post here that upsets someone, and that someone might be a complete nutter, and you will be very happy that nobody knows how to find out where you live from your post. By the way, Google apparently can because they know where your broadband router is.
You have nothing to hide? Companies will try to charge you different amounts of money depending on your browser history. If they think you are really interested in something, the price will go up.
Presumably cellular triangulation technology doesn't apply to wi-fi access while location services do?
If you can opt-out, groovy. If not, sinister.
The only information the system sends to apple through iTunes is Genius bar thing. Apple notifies you well about this feature and I believe it is turned off by default. Other then that, you can put any song in iTunes, pirated, ripped, even ripped movies. None of the information leaves the computer if you dont want it to.
I guess the EC (European Commission) will soon have a look into this and stop Apple from doing this (Obviously within the borders of the European Union).
Though... just to make sure... I'll soon send an e-mail regarding this matter so they don't forget
Privacy laws in EU are pretty good and Apple is no different than any other company working on EU soil
(Obviously within the borders of the European Union).Though... just to make sure... I'll soon send an e-mail regarding this matter so they don't forget
Privacy laws in EU are pretty good and Apple is no different than any other company working on EU soil
OMG. Apple is going to know your exact location so they can pay you a little visit and harvest your soul. They are building a massive army of zombie-like Appleheads to conquer the world.
Please cancel your pre-orders on the iPhone immediately, and stop buying iPads.
So us people in other parts of the world are actually able to purchase one of these damn devices.
Please cancel your pre-orders on the iPhone immediately, and stop buying iPads.
So us people in other parts of the world are actually able to purchase one of these damn devices.
diferent
There is a huge difference.
People may be able to track you illegally but what you have signed up for is for them to track you legally. If someone tracks you illegally then you have means to fight back.
That is a very different situation.
I am sure there are other systems that also track you but that is why I dont have them. If you pay full price for a phone its yours and no one should be able to mess around with your info/data other than for updates. What Apple has done is say that if you want your GPS to work then it will collect your data and sell it to others, it has given its clients no other choice.
In other words, if you do not want to be tracked and targeted then you have paid for a phone that has GPS and GPS apps but you can not use them.
If I revert back to to the previous version software will I also have this problem?
Anyone?
There is a huge difference.
People may be able to track you illegally but what you have signed up for is for them to track you legally. If someone tracks you illegally then you have means to fight back.
That is a very different situation.
I am sure there are other systems that also track you but that is why I dont have them. If you pay full price for a phone its yours and no one should be able to mess around with your info/data other than for updates. What Apple has done is say that if you want your GPS to work then it will collect your data and sell it to others, it has given its clients no other choice.
In other words, if you do not want to be tracked and targeted then you have paid for a phone that has GPS and GPS apps but you can not use them.
If I revert back to to the previous version software will I also have this problem?
Anyone?
Except none of that is the case. Location information is used for location-based services. Disable the services, either systemwide or on a per-app basis, and problem solved.
Others have framed the question as "if Google did this". Google already does do this, and Android phones have used location services for a long time. Apple has used location services for a while, too. There's nothing new in the privacy policy--it's just finally been updated to reflect location-aware applications.
Of course there's a reason. The information made available, and the advertisers taking advantage of it, vary by location and vary over time. No other advertising platform tells you who's getting what data. Google's certainly doesn't. Why should there be a different expectation here?
No, that doesn't surprise me at all. My point was that that ship sailed. Any device that communicates can give away its location or other data for analytics. If you want to take advantage of location services, then you have to be able to get location information; if you don't like the privacy implications of that, turn it off.
But you're not. Location-based services don't work if your location isn't given to third parties. It can't work any other way. If you don't like that, no one's "committing" you to use it.
Well, that's life. Convenience and risk of abuse always go hand in hand. They're not getting any personally identifying information out of the disclosures, so I fail to see how it affects insurance decisions.
Like I said, if you don't believe that's what they're providing, then no policy is adequate and no device can be trusted and you simply can't use them. For the average, nearly reasonable person, they can turn off location services for applications they don't want using it or turn it off systemwide if they don't want anyone using it. As far as advertising data goes, you never have any meaningful input into who gets access, whether it's a magazine, a television commercial, a desktop web browser, or a mobile ad network, either Apple's or anyone else's.
There is absolutely nothing new or strange here. Location-based services and mobile advertising already can and do collect this information on the iPhone, and have done so for a long time. Apple with iAd is now doing what others do, and is including location information to enable locally-relevant advertising, which many people want. If you're not one of them, you can easily turn off location sharing and opt out of targeted advertising.
That's it! That is where I have to draw a line and say NO!
What is the world is going on? Is nothing personal anymore? What happened to privacy?
Apple, I am losing interest in you day by day...... Why are you doing what all others are? What happened to your unique and special way of doing things?
Just a sell out like all others. If I cannot opt out of this, then I will have to opt out of all of your products.
Ciao. You sucker sell out rotten apple!!
If I am wrong then please accept my apologies.
What is the world is going on? Is nothing personal anymore? What happened to privacy?
Apple, I am losing interest in you day by day...... Why are you doing what all others are? What happened to your unique and special way of doing things?
Just a sell out like all others. If I cannot opt out of this, then I will have to opt out of all of your products.
Ciao. You sucker sell out rotten apple!!
If I am wrong then please accept my apologies.
The day that apple announced the purchase of quattro , I made the following prediction, and was criticized for it. Sounds like I was right.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9041965/
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9041965/