Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. Over 1,500 of those apps were designed for the iPhone and iPad. Also visionOS apps dropped 25% in early 2025!
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Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support
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No I said you are lying. There's a difference. You must be Tim Cook's burner account!
I quoted what Tim Cook said during an earnings call.
By Jason Snell:
This is Tim: Complete Q3 2024 analyst call transcript
It’s that time again — Apple CEO Tim Cook and CFO Luca Maestri spoke on a conference call and took questions from financial analysts. Here’s our complete transcript.
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"Recently, we’ve also been excited to bring Apple Vision Pro to more countries, giving customers the chance to discover the remarkable capabilities of this magical device. Vision Pro users are customizing their own workspaces, watching movies on 100-foot screens, and exploring entire worlds with just a pinch of their fingertips. With more than 2,500 native spatial apps and 1.5 million compatible apps for visionOS, the developer community continues to pioneer stunning spatial experiences that are only possible with Vision Pro."
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Tim and you are delusional then! Magical paperweight.I quoted what Tim Cook said during an earnings call.
By Jason Snell:
This is Tim: Complete Q3 2024 analyst call transcript
It’s that time again — Apple CEO Tim Cook and CFO Luca Maestri spoke on a conference call and took questions from financial analysts. Here’s our complete transcript.
"Recently, we’ve also been excited to bring Apple Vision Pro to more countries, giving customers the chance to discover the remarkable capabilities of this magical device. Vision Pro users are customizing their own workspaces, watching movies on 100-foot screens, and exploring entire worlds with just a pinch of their fingertips. With more than 2,500 native spatial apps and 1.5 million compatible apps for visionOS, the developer community continues to pioneer stunning spatial experiences that are only possible with Vision Pro."
If and when virtual display is as good quality as a real monitor, I'll be thrilled.. I still find it smeary and lacking sharpness.. not good enough to not feel weird using.. although I am using it with a 2019 Mac Pro, not an apple silicon Mac..
AVP keeps getting better. No regrets on having and using mine. Its amazing.
The new Vision Pro...
Or on YouTube, slightly inferior quality...
Or on YouTube, slightly inferior quality...
As you believe Cook is lying/delusional, clearly you know better than him and must have credible inside information directly from Apple as to the number of native AVP apps.
What is the correct number of native AVP apps? And what is your source?
Here's the best AVP apps for 2025. Under whelming to say the least.
The Best Apple Vision Pro Apps for 2025
Apple's Vision Pro headset offers access to plenty of software. We pick the top 31 apps on visionOS, from movies and games to videoconferencing and...ordering cookies.
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As you believe Cook is lying/delusional, clearly you know better than him and must have credible inside information directly from Apple as to the number of native AVP apps.
What is the correct number of native AVP apps? And what is your source?
Please provide the credible info for all these so called apps! Tim Cook's word means nothing.
As you believe Cook is lying/delusional, clearly you know better than him and must have credible inside information directly from Apple as to the number of native AVP apps.
What is the correct number of native AVP apps? And what is your source?
Please provide the credible info for all these so called apps! Tim Cook's word means nothing.
The new version has 10% more pixels and up to 120Hz refresh rate. They specifically say that the images are sharper and motion blur is reduced. Plus, pairing with an Intel Mac is known to add latency.
Sounds like the AVP you have is not at fault, and Apple directly addressed your concerns.
I don't know. I'll continue to believe Cook as he is CEO of Apple.
If you don't think he's being truthful, that's your business and prerogative.
I live in Houston, it would probably overheat the AVP to sit in the sun directly lol. I sit in the shade when I sit outside with a nice fan on me.
I am one, and there is another guy on this thread. We are developing a full professional EHR for the AVP, natively.
Yes, the older version works as long as you have Vision OS 26
No, the number of iPad apps is over a million. The native visionOS apps is over 3000. I know you don’t like the product but don’t let that get in the way of the truth.
The new one allegedly pushes 10% more pixels. This to me is my biggest ask.
An AVP EHR sounds fascinating! I take it that's more for the physician rather than the patient?
I had created and posted this graphic below last year when the 2024 AVP was released and I’ll post it again. People have way too high an expectation of a Gen 1–2 device.
The AVP may or may not survive in its current form. Nobody can predict the future.
The AVP may or may not survive in its current form. Nobody can predict the future.
- Apple is still a wildly profitable company and with being innovative come inherent risks.
- Apple has 100s of patents and proprietary technology that can be used in other future devices like smart glasses.
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Physicians, billers, medical staff. We are eventually making a patient app but in the beginning the request from doctors was to use the vision pro to access our existing iPad/mac app
Awesome. I can see that being a killer app and worth a good chunk of money. Especially if you can penetrate Stanford Medicine, Harvard Health, Columbia, Sutter Health, ... etc.
I want one! I need one too! Love the new dual band They could have dumped this stupid front screen and lower the price accordingly. Maybe the next gen will do that because I don’t think Vision Pro is going to be dumped … The vision air maybe but they need to perfect the tech until they launch the Apple glasses that will fly off the shelves like butterflies …
I’ve seen multiple people make similar comments. 👆
Think of it this way: Apple can absolutely make a stripped-down $200 iPhone that has mass market appeal in emerging markets (low-income countries). Apple could sell 100s of millions of basic cheap iPhones. There are Android phones at that price point, so why not iPhone?
I think Apple’s strategy with the AVP’s current high price-point is very intentional. It may sound counterintuitive, but I believe Apple is not looking for mass market appeal at the moment to avoid disappointment. It’s still an early-adopter product and the third-party developer community/ecosystem has to catch up—the same way the iPhone did in its initial iterations. The AVP’s high price-point is an intentional barrier to entry. Most of the people who are putting down $3,500+ for the AVP know exactly what they’re getting / already have their expectations managed.
You have to remember: All of the third-party iOS apps we love and enjoy today on the iPhone did not exist in 2007–2008. Browsing the internet on a “smartphone” wasn’t even a thing when the iPhone was released in 2007. How many of you are old enough to remember when Steve Jobs loaded The New York Times website on stage? It was the Desktop version of the website because “mobile web” and “responsive design” wasn’t even a thing back then. We’ve come a long way with the iPhone in the last 18 years.
Unfortunately, majority of the people that can afford a $1,000 iPhone are wondering why they can’t afford the $3,500 AVP and why the AVP M2/M5 isn’t as polished as their latest-generation iPhone (17). There’s no comparison—they’re two completely different categories and stages of their lifecycles.
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I have > 70 new or updated apps to review for my next update and I only add apps to my list that I find interesting. Don't have time to review all of the new content. With the first equivalent headsets being released I expect an even higher rate of new/updated content being available.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/my-favorite-vp-apps-2025-08-21.2463791/
Have you used one ? I have. Its incredible and so so so much better than my Meta Quest 3 its unreal but then it should be for the price you'd say....
Toys become mainstream in tech pretty quick - look at the foldable market or 65" TVs....anyway I dont dislike a Ferrari or a Rolex as it's not mass market and it's always good to have a Halo product.
Apple today updated the Vision Pro headset with its next-generation M5 chip for faster performance, and a more comfortable Dual Knit Band.
The M5 chip has a 10-core CPU, a 10-core GPU with Neural Accelerators, and a 16-core Neural Engine, and we have confirmed the Vision Pro still has 16GB of RAM.
With the M5 chip, the Vision Pro offers faster performance and longer battery life compared to the previous model with the M2 chip. Apple has not provided any overall performance figures, but its website says the Vision Pro now offers up to three hours of video playback per charge, compared to up to 2.5 hours for the previous model.
Apple says the M5 chip enables the rendering of 10% more pixels on the displays compared to the previous model, resulting in sharper images and crisper text. And the Vision Pro can now ramp up to a 120Hz refresh rate, up from the previous limit of 100Hz. Apple says 120Hz support reduces motion blur and provides a smoother experience when using Mac Virtual Display.
With the M5 chip, the Vision Pro gains hardware-accelerated ray tracing and mesh shading, for improved graphics rendering. These capabilities were first introduced with the M3 chip, but the previous Vision Pro only had an M2 chip.
Apple says the M5 chip's faster 16-core Neural Engine, and a Neural Accelerator in each GPU core, make AI features run up to 50% faster than on the previous model.
The updated Vision Pro still has an R1 chip for input processing. The headset continues to support Wi-Fi 6, rather than Wi-Fi 6E or Wi-Fi 7, and Bluetooth 5.3.
There are no design changes or new color options, such as the rumored Space Black. There is still a tethered battery pack, rather than a built-in battery.
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The updated Vision Pro comes with the Dual Knit Band, a Light Seal, two Light Seal Cushions, a cover for the front of the device, a polishing cloth, a battery, a USB-C charging cable, and Apple's new 40W Dynamic Power Adapter with 60W Max.
The previous Vision Pro came with Apple's discontinued 30W USB-C Power Adapter.
The new Dual Knit Band comes in small, medium, and large sizes. It is available to purchase separately for $99, and it is compatible with the previous-generation Vision Pro. You can find your preferred size by using the Apple Store app on the iPhone.
Apple says the Dual Knit Band features two straps knitted into a single piece. The upper strap goes across the top of the head, and the lower strap goes across the back of the head. The lower strap has tungsten inserts that provide a counterweight for additional comfort, balance, and stability. You can adjust the fit of both of the straps with the Fit Dial.
Another new accessory is the Logitech Muse spatial stylus, and Apple will begin selling the PlayStation VR2 Sense controller starting Tuesday, November 11.
The updated Vision Pro is available to pre-order starting today, and it will begin arriving to customers and launch in stores on Wednesday, October 22.
In the U.S., the Vision Pro continues to start at $3,499, and it can be configured with 256GB, 512GB, or 1TB of storage. The new model is also available in Australia, Canada, China, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Japan, the U.K., and the United Arab Emirates. Availability in South Korea and Taiwan will begin at a later date, according to Apple.
You can demo the new Vision Pro at an Apple Store starting October 22.
With the iPadOS 26.1 update, set to be released later this year, Apple says the Vision Pro app is expanding to iPad. It was previously on the iPhone only.
Article Link: Apple Updates Vision Pro With M5 Chip, Dual Knit Band, and 120Hz Support
Have Apple ever stated if the different rates of voltage etc around the world are why the AVP2 still ships w/a 30w wall plug here in the UK?