Apple Vision Pro Could Take Four Generations to Reach 'Ideal Form'

[Harry Haller]

It just seems like they could make a sweet spatial audio/video/memories experience device with something like the Visor.

That would be an actually focused and useful product that would have a compelling sales case

The lack of laser sharp focus and scatter gun approach to what the AVP solves is a rare misstep on Apple’s part. Is it fatal? Probably not. The deus ex machina killer apps theory might be enough to turn the AVP into a success. This early in the game I’d say those odds are 50/50.

Gaming should have been a major, not a minor focus.

SteamVR Driver for Vision Pro & Controller Support Now in Development

The developer leading the push to make PSVR 2 compatible with PC VR games says they’re working on a SteamVR driver that aims to bring unofficial SteamVR support to Vision Pro, controllers and all. You may have heard earlier this week that independent programmer Zhuowei Zhang had installed a...

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[cardfan]

Key word ‘imagine.’ Have you gone for a demo yet? You should, might help in the imagining. Turns out its not that difficult.

Have one at home. Nope. Would not want to wear this while working all day.

 

[UK-MacAddict]

Lol this thing is going the same way every AR/VR product has gone, to obscurity and then end of life. Be lucky if it reaches a 3rd revision.

 

[windowsblowsass]

When all you do on your device is consuming videos all day, play games, and occasionally send a message with a few characters and emojis, then sure, you can do that on an iPhone, iPad or using a headset. Once you need to bring together different files, data sources, work with audio, video, iOS will seriously hamper your productivity. Is it possible to get most things done on an iPad? Sure. But you will waste a lot of time with numerous artificial obstacles and spend much more time than necessary.

But the issue here again is your conflating your particular work with everyone who uses a computers work. iPads are hugely popular for anyone who does sales for instance. I’m not saying that everyone in sales will be mass adopting Vision Pros but there are plenty of industries that use multiple systems that aren’t customer facing that could have a strong benefit from a mature version of this product.

 

[Harry Haller]

But the issue here again is your conflating your particular work with everyone who uses a computers work. iPads are hugely popular for anyone who does sales for instance. I’m not saying that everyone in sales will be mass adopting Vision Pros but there are plenty of industries that use multiple systems that aren’t customer facing that could have a strong benefit from a mature version of this product.

That's the part that escapes many critics of the AVP.
Product maturity doesn't magically happen at launch of a new product category.
There've been estimates in the forum of how many generations it will take for AVP to be a success. Some have said as many as 4. Of course a lot of that depends on how you define success for the AVP and what qualifies as a mature product. I think we'll have a pretty good idea where AVP is headed after AVP2 releases and is reviewed.

 

[Funny Apple Man]

Just like the Mac Apple Silicon.

wait for the M3 or M4 Chip.

They should have used sn M3 chip instead of an M2 for $3500 bucks.

Mac Apple Silicon is like the rare exception to the "first gen" rule. M1 is awesome, the M2 and beyond feel like incremental updates.

Agreed, M3 on Vision Pro would've been nice, but I guess the M3 arrived too late for them to swap the chip.

 

[Funny Apple Man]

I can't envision a day where I'd replace my ipad with a vision pro.

Yup. There's use cases that work best on an iPad rather than a Vision Pro.

There's no way the Vision Pro is going to replace the iPad as a drawing tablet lol.

 

[Realityck]

Another extended review bringing up AVP/Vision Pro discussion points I haven't see before.

Apple Vision Pro review: Incredible unrealized potential

This thing is going to be great one day, but that day is not yet here.

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You can resize windows freely, but they just don’t look and feel like the “big boy” versions you get on a Mac. Third-party apps are mostly iPad apps, with fewer than a thousand visionOS-specific apps. Those that are there feel rushed. They’re frequently buggy, often just a floating window that resembles an iPad app, and feature “spatial” features that are gimmicky. For example, Carrot Weather is great, but it’s little more than an iPad app with an option pop-out “full globe” view that makes you say “oh neat!” but isn’t actually useful. I want to look around the real world and see isobars and radar precipitation in the sky.

Carrot Weather is a “spatial” app but doesn’t really do anything the iPad or Mac version doesn’t.

In fact, most of what the Vision Pro experience amounts to is floating windows anchored in the spaces around you. I don’t mean to discount this technical feat. The windows are incredibly crisp and vibrant, and really appear to be an part of your real environment. They occlude the real world as appropriate, cast shadows on flat surfaces, and never waver even a millimeter.

But they’re also always anchored to the space, instead of to you. If you want a window to follow you as you walk around, you have to literally grab its little window bar at the bottom and carry it. More than once I have awkwardly been unable to find a running app because it’s in the other room. The first time you walk around your house looking for where you left the Safari window hanging, it’s kind of amazing. Every time after that, it’s frustrating.
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Interesting observations, like I left the app window hanging elsewhere or the example of a native spatial app offering negligible benefit in VisionOS comparably.