Yeah, also don’t forget when Jerry tore apart the VP we find out that it was a 3500 dollar plastic hardwar.
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I don't care how small they make it or how inexpensive. I still don't know what I'd use it for day in and day out after the initial wow factor wore off.
I do not see VR/AR becoming integral to our lives the way computers and smartphones are. I could see this being used for certain niche professional uses, and definitely for gaming and other recreational uses, but not much more than that. Even if this becomes as light as a regular pair of glasses and costs as much as an iPhone. It's not the specs that will hamper usage, it's the fundamental concept, which is inherently for niche use cases.
I think the bulk of computing will stay at laptops, desktops, and tablets for the foreseeable future. VR usage will certainly be less than tablet usage. And people aren't going to replace their TVs with VR.
I think the bulk of computing will stay at laptops, desktops, and tablets for the foreseeable future. VR usage will certainly be less than tablet usage. And people aren't going to replace their TVs with VR.
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Possibly. I don't work in IT, and don't know anyone that does. Does Configurator only work on Mac?
If they swing at this again, they HAVE to get a gaming story fleshed out
Whether they prefer or "like it" or not, gaming is the main use for these types of devices
Exactly, and well said.
It’s likely that person doesn’t work in a company using specialized apps developed for mobile devices such as iPads or iPhones.
LG, Samsung selling 150 inch OLED TV for $100K.
"Wow! Looks so cool!!!"
Apple selling AVP for $3500.
"You guys are so expensive!!!"
Yes.
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I don't think you need Apple Configurator to enroll devices for device management. Larger organisation can order them from Apple pre-enrolled. Then managment can be done browser-based. So technically you would not need a Mac to manage iPads and iPhones in your organisation.
I just can't imagine a use for this thing in my life.
It’s interesting how people universalize their own context.
For example: I see people spending over $3k for sets of universal IEMs. I see people spending well over $3k for sneakers (not even dress shoes.) I see people spending well over $3k for jackets, suits and wrist watches.
The real question is about priorities. Do you really need a 100 inch TV? Even if it’s virtual? Do you really need a “TV” that you can’t share with anyone else? Do you really need an iPad strapped to your face?
The price is inconsequential when compared to the perceived value of the object. Apple could have put virtually any price on it if it had actually been the amazing, must-have, revolutionary product their marketing department tried to suggest it was.
The naysayers never consider they are naysaying because they are old and their computer experience involves a mouse, keyboard and being tied to a desk. The iPad is close to 13 years old and iPhone another 17 years old. For anyone in this age group touch is natural and using a traditional computer is a step backward. Vision Pro is the next step for them. Why hold something when you can see it?
Older people typically throw up reasons, justifications and supposed roadblocks to adapting new technology because as people age they pick up those traits and end up stuck in their ways. They also try to bring legacy items with them to new platforms (e.g. mouse and keyboard). The young ones adapt to the features of the tools they are given and never start identifying items that are missing or not present in the traditional format.
One example is iPhone with no physical keyboard. The naysayers went hard with it not having a traditional keyboard. For those of us who never had a phone with anything but a touch keyboard it was not even a consideration because it was an improvement. No wasted space added to the footprint and something that could be adapted for any use with source code. Examples: Horizontal keyboard with larger buttons, character limited keyboards, and foreign keyboards, which were an extra costs for manufacturers.
Wow. For real? How insulting and false.
The term Spatial Computing is from the early 1990's. Augmented Reality was used by the military in 1992. Virtual Reality was used by the military during 1970 to 1990, most of the usage targets were medical, flight simulation, automobile industry design, and military training purposes back then.
As you can see all of what you are claiming is a next step is actually old technology just evolving like any other technology be it smartphones, tablets, desktop/laptop/workstation computers. What is just occurring now is that the industry thinks it got an another gold mine to reap gold from. Everything technology wise changes every so many years. There is certainly a bunch of people out there that like to fantasize that we will have soon ready player one headsets to get lost in for gaming. But the biggest push is not VR but AR where computer generated information is associated with the real world allowing you to combine all the data you have taken to look at the real world in many perspectives never possible before. One common example is the use of LIDAR to digitally deforest the forest canopy and identify the ancient ruins when flying above the areas to be examined. Its obvious AR can be used with conventional 2D displays such as what the iPhone and IPad offer. This oh my god love fest with Apple promises to hype its mixed reality headset as possibly replacing some modern alternatives needs to evolve further.
As far as why hold something when you can see it, is wearing a head set any better then a large high resolution display where a group can congregate around? The problem with debating 3D will conquer the world is that AI is now quickly approaching where data can be correlated systematically to show data in different ways. You can rotate it looking at it in all 3 axis even if your display its 2D. Trying to argue the advantages of the AVP in our present business/educational/scientific world by Apple is very difficult as there are many usages by much more experienced parties then this first effort. Sure you can be excited, but evolving technology can be like a portrait where the artists might repaint it multiple times before perspectives are satisfied.
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Millions of people use iPads for work. Your personal workflow may not be optimal or possible on an iPad that doesn’t mean it’s useless for work. You may have a job that requires a desktop OS many people have jobs that do not, many of those jobs are high level, high paying careers. There is a world outside that of a developer.
now that I think about it this seems like a DragonBall Z reference. I think it took Frieza 4 forms to reach his final form.
To suggest age has anything to do with this is just ignorant nonsense.
What is “old” in your opinion?
They could do without the external display. I haven’t seen any teardowns but how much thickness and weight might that save?
I want to wear my smart phone as smart goggles...never have to pull out the phone from my pocket again. hopefully in my lifetime I can see that.
Not the only one. Fact of the matter for these sorts of things is that the impact won't be prevalent for some many years. By the time it becomes well documented; the damage is already done and things like class actions only serve to benefit the lawyers.
Studies are only recently showing the link between shortsightedness in children/teens & digital device use.
I'm a parent and we try to minimise screentime, but it doesn't help that now schools are requiring iPads
I mean the AVP is high quality and very polished. seems like they have better resolution than competitors and the integration with their other products is very good.
I imagine that as it gets smaller with better battery life it’ll catch on more. and a lower price tag.
I’m not clamoring to get one just yet, but I do think they have a lot in store.
I don't have (and never will) an AVP, but my understanding is that for your eyes it's all screen that show the windows layered onto a display that shows the outside world. While the windows may be scaled on to the screen to look 6 feet away relative to everything else on the screen, the actual light source that your eye uses for focus is still only a few inches away. It may fool your brain, but your actual eye still has to focus on something that's very close for the entire time.