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Will look at it when the 2nd gen comes out. Unlike the super elites, most of us do not have 2K to spend on something that will be replaced in a year or 2.
 
Bomba. put it up there with newton, pippin, quicktake, g4 cube, etc.

It needs to be less than 999 and identical to a pair of designer glasses if they expect it to ever be mainstream

Shame the G4 cube was poorly designed in terms of thermals but the overall look was very good.

I was thinking the other day they should go back to producing polycarbonate Macbooks. I kind of miss the glossy white finishes on their consumer range.
 
They are held back because AI isn’t quite there yet, and the same would be true for the AVP.
Yeh right now there is no killer m4 chip so in that sense the avp isn’t held back. I enjoyed mine outdoors in the backyard watching a 30 foot screen on the XOVERLAND app. Love being able to take it anywhere to watch travel documentaries, about as close to being there as you can get right now.
 
Anyone abroad who seriously wanted one would’ve somehow attained one already. Those with the financial means to buy one can easily either travel to the states or find a resell unit.

Not at all. I want one, I can afford one, and I expect to buy one the moment it’s available in my country (unfortunately, it looks like I’ll have to wait for a while, as I live in Norway). If I travel to the US to buy one, it won’t work with my Norwegian Apple ID. I would have to set up a separate AmerIcan Apple ID, duplicate my Apple TV+ and Apple Music subscriptions, buy the apps I want to use again, and so on. I’m not even sure I’ll be able to use the same iCloud account (I guess I probably can’t). This is way too much hassle for such an expensive product.

If the International release will give us Vision Pros that can be used in any market (and not just in the country of purchase), I will perhaps travel to the UK to buy one this summer. Buying one from the US with the current limitations is totally out of the question.
 
Shame the G4 cube was poorly designed in terms of thermals but the overall look was very good.

I was thinking the other day they should go back to producing polycarbonate Macbooks. I kind of miss the glossy white finishes on their consumer range.

It would have to be something like 100% recycled plastic so it fits with their overall green marketing push.

An unapologetic polycarb Watch SE in bold colors like red/blue/yellow/etc would have major Swatch vibes and they can sell it to teens and kids for $99-$149

the plastic macbooks were bad, it always scratched immediately and the wrist area would eventually crack or turn yellow
 
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Sorry to be harsh but why would anyone buy this crap if it’s running an M2, now TWO chip generations behind?

And this is supposed to bring in a new era of computing? Sorry, I don’t see it.
 
Serious question (not directed at you necessarily, your comment made me think of it):
Did Tim elaborate at all about how those Fortune 100 companies are using AVP?

I’m still waiting to see how “the masses” can use it (spatial computing and the AVP itself) to improve productivity in any way over other available tools. So far it seems to be little more than a media consumption platform. If the bulk of the “WOW!” use cases are niche, industry-specific applications, perhaps Apple should have focused more on that market instead of portraying this as a general consumer device.
The specs speak for itself with the specs clearly prosumer class and aligned literally with all their other prosumer products.

From its pixel density, Dolby Vision + HLG HDR, and 5000 peak nits, it is clearly specced to align with the needs of creative professionals and other prosumers who don’t to wait for other people to make things for something to be useful.

Do you think Pro Display XDR and Mac Pro users are waiting for mainstream content and competing to demand such hardware instead of using it for productivity and optimal consumption of existing content alongside productive workflows?
 
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Considering the high price in USD, I somehow feel this will be an international insanity - price-wise.
Well.... I guess we'll wait and see.
Well due to how the tax system works around the world, I expect it to be more pricey everywhere else
 
Anyone abroad who seriously wanted one would’ve somehow attained one already. Those with the financial means to buy one can easily either travel to the states or find a resell unit.
Nope. I plan on buying one here in Australia. The devices however are locked to US Apple accounts. So things like my iMessage account would not work on it. Plus there is no international warranty, so while I 'seriously want one', I sadly have to wait.
 
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You’d be surprised at how many people in the world aren’t “broke.” $4K is nothing to some people

$4k is $4k irrespective of how much you earn. Going from short of money to not short of money has some impact on how expensive things seem, but beyond that, earning a lot more doesn’t really have the same impact. The cost of things relative to other things is still evident. Sure, some people with money don’t really think about the cost of things and spend freely, but that says more about the person rather than the amount of money they have. Many people make good money because they’re good with money. So, in my view, $4k is still $4k.
 
The specs speak for itself with the specs clearly prosumer class and aligned literally with all their other prosumer products.

From its pixel density, Dolby Vision + HLG HDR, and 5000 peak nits, it is clearly specced to align with the needs of creative professionals and other prosumers who don’t to wait for other people to make things for something to be useful.

Do you think Pro Display XDR and Mac Pro users are waiting for mainstream content and competing to demand such hardware instead of using it for productivity and optimal consumption of existing content alongside productive workflows?

Glad you like the specs, but none of that addresses the key issue I brought up:
I’m still waiting to see how “the masses” can use it (spatial computing and the AVP itself) to improve productivity in any way over other available tools.
Does the AVP improve productivity so much compared to that Pro Display XDR and Mac Pro you mentioned that people are compelled to spend nearly $4K, put it on, isolate themselves from their environment, deal with comfort adjustments (compared to not having a machine on your face), and make it part of their workflows?

The AVP specs are awesome and cool, but for many the answer to the question above is simply “No, it does not.”
 
So far it seems to be little more than a media consumption platform. If the bulk of the “WOW!” use cases are niche, industry-specific applications, perhaps Apple should have focused more on that market instead of portraying this as a general consumer device.

Not at all.

Hours daily. I am continually amazed at the technology in the VP and how they have implemented it. It has its flaws (weight, glare) but for me they are insignificant compared to the pluses. When you moving out of an immersive environment it starts coming back at your lap first so you can see things like a keyboard.

1. Travel to Zimbabwe, Machu Picchu, Foz do Iguaçu without leaving your chair using the share spatial app. It gives you 90% of the visual experience for those who can't actually go there.

2. Use a 6 foot monitor from your mac

3. Play lossless music from your AirPods Pro 2 with the album cover inches from your face. Much more enjoyable.

4. Run a "Mindfullness" or other mediation app to help relax and sleep. Take a snooze by a running creek in an Oregon winter scene. See the results of the mediation if you have an Apple Watch.

5. Watch a 3D concert where the singer swings her hair in your face with AmazeVR concerts, although it is a bit creepy.

6. Explore the constellations. Grab one out of the night sky to know more about it with SkyGuide

7. Checkout which flights are landing at an airport in 3D with their plane type, where they came from, etc. with testflight

8. Explore extinct creatures with David Attenborough. Watch them in 3D in their native environment.

9. Convert your old photos into 3D ones with Spacial Media Toolkit. Just a start but shows what can be done.

10. Explore the Mars lander in 3D. Grab a part and see what it does with Exploring Mars.

11. Travel to a museum for a close look at the Mona Lisa with Art Authority museum. Explore contemporary artists with Art Universe.

12. Not a gamer but occasionally play Legos in 3D or place parts on a music store

13. Movies, some in 3D, of course with Apple TV and Disney Plus. Much better than going to the theater. No fuzzy screen, better sound.

And this is just the start. More great stuff is coming.

Things to look for once VP is available in your market.


This product is not an enterprise device no matter how hard Cook tries to avoid the toy label sticking to it.

There is no way to know whether this is true or not since information on enterprise sales is generally not released.

Sorry to be harsh but why would anyone buy this crap if it’s running an M2, now TWO chip generations behind?

VP works quite well with an M2. No need right now for an M4, although suppose that will come with time.
 
I'm so disappointed. If all goes well, it's a six-month delay on a device that has a two-year cycle before being replaced by the new model.
I am disappointed too. I'm in Canada we are used to the same launch date as U.S. This wait is killing me. 6 months!!!! I thought maybe 4 months. Then I thought it has to be available by the end of June...... Now end of July???????
 
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$4k is $4k irrespective of how much you earn. Going from short of money to not short of money has some impact on how expensive things seem, but beyond that, earning a lot more doesn’t really have the same impact. The cost of things relative to other things is still evident. Sure, some people with money don’t really think about the cost of things and spend freely, but that says more about the person rather than the amount of money they have. Many people make good money because they’re good with money. So, in my view, $4k is still $4k.

And 4k can be a tax deductible if you structure your spending right.
 
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