I personally do not even know what that means nor do I care. Like most people I just use whatever router comes with my internet plan from the provider
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Apple Vision Pro Lacks Wi-Fi 6E Support
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I personally do not even know what that means nor do I care. Like most people I just use whatever router comes with my internet plan from the provider
I am actually very curious about the long term effect on your eye sight / vision and brain as well (I am not kidding). I have a Quest 3 and it is getting exhausting after a while, so much, that I am still squeezing my eyes for about an hour after I take them off. For instance, I am going on a trip driving for 3+ hours on Thursday, I will make damn sure I am not using my Quest beforehand. I dont want to end up causing an accident because my sight isnt very it should be.
It reminds me of my parents when I was a kid "dont get too close to the tv!"
90% of people complaining about 6E not being in this device probably don't even know what differentiates 6E from regular Wifi. Probably none of them would ever actually notice the difference.
You'll be fine, 99,9% of users will be fine, hardly anybody will notice - let alone have their work made impossible or even just minimally inconvenienced. Is it silly that this $3500 facial tin can doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles? Yes, but so are many of apple's decisions.
You'll be fine, 99,9% of users will be fine, hardly anybody will notice - let alone have their work made impossible or even just minimally inconvenienced. Is it silly that this $3500 facial tin can doesn't have all the latest bells and whistles? Yes, but so are many of apple's decisions.
I've talked about my Index with my optometrist (and her optometrist husband) several times over the past few years. The truth is they, at least, just didn't know. Consensus seems to be that my eyes are focused at infinity when inside so not much different than staring off the porch.
That said, the evidence for devices damages our eyes seems to hinge on emission rather than distance. So I believe eyes will (and are) getting trashed but not for the reasons I think you were might have been thinking about.
I have some trepidation about what these kinds of devices are doing to the eye/brain interaction but I have a feeling we're decades out from understanding how the brain is processing what our eyes are taking in other than the very limited current understanding it's nothing like we think it is (ie, our brains are basically lying to us all the time).
That was because those old CRT TVs did emit massive doses of radiation, shot towards the viewer, which would quickly disperse after leaving the tube. I haven't heard of anyone dying for watching TV too close.
Actually, many of us sat very closely in front or a CRT computer monitor for years, even when at school. Being the same tube, why people didn't say: "You need to sit at least 10' from your monitor"?
That's no longer a problem with new TVs, but some people still think the old way, telling their kids not to sit too close to the TV.
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It would seem that as the VP nears launch day, from the months and months of waffles of what it 'could be' capable of doing and 'might be' able to do, now we are hearing of what it is actually not able to do. That price tag of $3,500 is starting to not look so good.
True, you could have WiFi 7 if you can afford implementing the proper infrastructure, but still your internet connection will be your bottleneck, and even if you have the fastest Internet available, the content provider you are connecting to may limit the transfer rate for each user that connects to their services.
WiFi 6 should be more than enough for connectivity. It's over 1Gb (1000 Mbps) maximum transfer rate, and that's what most networks have these days (Uplink ports use 10 Gbps to interconnect switches and routers and avoid bottlenecks).
The article (or quote) is incorrect. MBA 15" doesn't have WiFi 6E .
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Wi-Fi
- Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax)
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP893?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US
There is a decent chance that the MBA 15" was originally planned to be released in 1H 2022 ( with the MBA 13" M2). The two products are coupled. The 15" primarily just being a bigger screen , case , and battery of the baseline 13" model.
The stuff that was likely originally planned to be relased Q4 2022 and slid into 2023 is all Wi-Fi 6E , but some Mac product slid a lot further than others. The Vision Pro has probably slid even longer hardware wise waiting on software and component fixes.
P.S. not sure if first post in this thread got revised, but it says "most Mac 2023 models" now which is more accurate.
Yes, the MBA seems not to have it. Technically, the article isn't entirely incorrect, as they did write "most models". Strange, that's what I'm seeing now but pretty sure previously it did say all 2023 MacBooks. Hmm
Edit: yup, they've changed it! This was my original reply copy/ pasted to @JPack :
As per article: "Apple devices with Wi-Fi 6E support include the latest iPad Pro models, iPhone 15 Pro models, and all Mac models released in 2023".
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You'd be surprised what a big difference an after market router makes, even an $80 one...
Providers are rolling them out already as their standard gear, so I'm guessing tons of people will have them by year end. The biggest issue is future proofing- you don't ship expensive tech with out of date wifi standards....
For the of sake discussion, it's irrelevant how many have it. 6E as a standard has been out for quite a while and capable routers/ modems for nearly as long. My 2023 MBP supports it, as do many other Apple products. So it's not even about future proofing as WiFi 7 (a formidable update) is really just around the corner, but rather not even including a WiFi standards that's theoretically, if not practically, on the cusp of being superseded.
Having said, I'm not in the market for the APV and still kick around with my WiFi 5 mesh routers. It would be interesting to know however why 6E was not fitted. A limitation of RF approval, physical problem or a purely financial decision. I don't even know how a faster/ slower WiFi connection would negatively impact this particular device.
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No UWB seems like a huge miss. Maybe the technology isn't quite there yet but I would think UWB would enable some pretty useful Find My party tricks. Imagine using augmented reality to find your keys where Vision Pro puts a bubble around your items in 3D space.
Wi-Fi 6E is more than speed. The 6 GHz band has greatly reduced interference and lower latency, both of which are important for a computer directly in front of your eyes. And as many have said, this is an incredibly expensive device. Missing out on Wi-Fi 6E when Wi-Fi 7 is already shipping is a big miss, in my opinion.
The final standard for Wifi 7 isn't expected until the end of 2024.
