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See above. Your rebuttal completely failed.
The assumption you’re making is that comments are being offered from a place of ignorance. That is not the case.
The majority won’t do it. That’s my contention and it stands. As to the rest, I’ve done that… and been ignored by you and others in favor of attempts to turn it personal. Sorry. I’m not inclined to take that bait.
Explicitly? No. But what he has said in many different ways is that it’s the “next step” for Apple. A “new computing paradigm.” In effect he’s saying Mac -> iPhone -> Apple Vision. That’s a clear case of setting expectations WAY too high for a product that to all appearances doesn’t live up to it and probably never will.
Got it - you have nothing to share with respect to AR except people would not put such a device on their face.
Feel free to ignore people here who are familiar with technology, how it's used in many different scenarios, and believe Apple has a bright future in that area.
Thanks!
Apple Vision isn’t really AR. That’s part of the issue with it.
I haven’t ignored anyone.
And that's the problem. There are a handful of people here who are very familiar with AR, its history, how it's used in a wide range of disciplines, enjoy talking about the technology, are excited about the future/potential of Apple's device, and like to discuss it.
So, again...Please... just ignore us.
Thank you.
This already looks better than everything else on the market and it’s not even out yet!
No states mandate a full-face helmet yet people still wear them. So I guess this evolutionary aversion can be easily controlled. No joke.
Still waiting for valid criticism beyond price and battery life.
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Massive hair split.
Because helmets are mandated, why not wear full face if you HAVE TO WEAR ONE ANYWAY? Evolution has nothing to do with bikers and mandated helmets beyond the fact that people generally don’t want to wear them, but evidently smugness does?
Clearly you haven’t been reading the thread. If you had been you’d see that the issues with the device extend well beyond those two points.
Rebuttal? Rebuttal to what? Not a rebuttal at all.
Merely a request to simply ignore people who are familiar with AR, it's potential, are excited about Apple's entry into the market, and wish to have uninterrupted discussions about the subject without having to deal with sideways distractive comments such as people never being onboard with having a device on their face.
Not at all. Your argument was that people wear full-face helmets because they are mandated, which they aren't.
People not wanting to wear helmets has nothing to do with some evolutionary aversion to face coverings.
Still waiting for valid complaints against the platform beyond price and battery life.
Personally owned phones used to be a thing before consumer adoption of cell phones. So were handsets held to the ears. And wireless walkie-talkies. Or, more generally, the miniaturisation of technology. It all kind of followed a gradual path of product improvement and optimisation.
Even tablet computers can be seen as a very fancy evolution of handheld books (just make the content animated and dynamic and dynamically loaded) from an ergonomical point of view. And I’ve introduced other (older) people to their first cellular phones, and none of them felt much oddness after being used to older phones.
Strapping huge monitors to your head, just and inch or so before your eyes, fully obscuring your vision and isolating one of your (probably your most important) senses from the outside world around you something quite different.
Mobile phones, electric light, combustion-engine cars and even passenger air travel have all found broad mainstream consumer adoption. 3D movies and audio have not - why not?
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Nope. You introduced the idea of full face helmets, not me.
You should read the thread.
That's your assertion/projection...certainly not mine. Being familiar with AR is hardly claiming authority. As is being familiar with cars/computers/planes/cement/cameras/nail guns/laws/etc. is hardly claiming authority.
It would just be nice to have a discussion with people who are familiar with AR, its history, uses, etc. Without comments from people who don't, and even assert Apple's device is not AR. Simply to disrupt.
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Yes I did, along with skiing and scuba diving, as examples of people wearing face and head coverings because they enjoy the activity. And you said people are forced to wear full face helmets, which they aren't. These are examples of people controlling and ignoring the evolutionary aversion to face coverings you proposed.
I have. Most complaints beyond price and battery life have been subjective.
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@Surf Monkey
There is no proof, at all, that people have evolved to hate putting things on their faces. Thats an absurd assertion to make - unless you have this evidence?
People dont like it, perhaps - but thats not even slightly the same thing. The fact that people wear them to ski or snowboard, ride motorbikes, snorkel just proves the point that people will also wear something like these AR devices too. If one enjoys something, or one has to do something like wear a certain piece of uncomfortable clothing to do it, one will do it anyway. So will be the same for using this device.
I have an opinion too: t’s ok if you dont like the idea. It’s even ok if a lot of people dont like the idea. Looking past this initial foray by Apple, and the previous efforts by other companies, it’s clear to see this is just the start, its clear to see that AR in one form or another is the future of this type of computing. One only need to look at the history of tech and how far each product in each segment has come since it’s inception to realise that this is simply the starting point.
Your argument is entirely based upon your opinion, which would be fine, but your stating it like facts, and further more trying to bulk out your assertions with made up science regarding human evolution.
There is no proof, at all, that people have evolved to hate putting things on their faces. Thats an absurd assertion to make - unless you have this evidence?
People dont like it, perhaps - but thats not even slightly the same thing. The fact that people wear them to ski or snowboard, ride motorbikes, snorkel just proves the point that people will also wear something like these AR devices too. If one enjoys something, or one has to do something like wear a certain piece of uncomfortable clothing to do it, one will do it anyway. So will be the same for using this device.
I have an opinion too: t’s ok if you dont like the idea. It’s even ok if a lot of people dont like the idea. Looking past this initial foray by Apple, and the previous efforts by other companies, it’s clear to see this is just the start, its clear to see that AR in one form or another is the future of this type of computing. One only need to look at the history of tech and how far each product in each segment has come since it’s inception to realise that this is simply the starting point.
Your argument is entirely based upon your opinion, which would be fine, but your stating it like facts, and further more trying to bulk out your assertions with made up science regarding human evolution.
Apple Vision is exactly AR, as much as the current consumer tech allows for AR. What makes you say that it isn’t? Do you know what AR is?
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I rebutted each of those examples individually. Attempting to put words in my mouth and then basically ignoring the substance of what I actually said it a sure way to have your argument fail.
False. You should probably spend some time reading the actual thread.
Rationalize all you like. It goes on your face. That will be a deal breaker for the majority of people.
That may be true but it’s got nothing at all to do with evolution 🤦