The black eyes only happened after said people received a punch in the face from the credit card bill.
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Apple Vision Pro Owners Complain of Headaches, Neck Issues and Black Eyes
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Black eyes? I’ve worn it for hours with no issues. That person either cranked the headband insanely tight out of stupidity, or they’re just lying. People are truly awful and desperate for attention.
Android and Windows devices give me headaches... reason why I avoid them as much as possible.
You can get black eyes when you get over exposed to white light and glare. It's a way for your body to adjust.
Football players paint black lines under their eyes to avoid glare and be able to focus better.
I have used the AVP enough to say that when I over use it, as when it's late at night and my eyes are tired, but I still want to watch a movie on it, the next morning my eyes may be a little dark. But normally, I don't have that problem.
The same I could say happened when I would stay late at night watching series on my iPad in the dark.
So it's not the AVP but the user's fault.
Neck pain, yes. I have chronic neck pain since I fell from the skating ramp back in 2001, and it was somewhat painful to use the AVP at first, but now my neck has become stronger and the pain diminished, including the all day long pain I used to have. I can use my AVP for 2 or more hours without a problem. I do take breaks every once in a while.
Lazy people - this was Apple's ruse.... to reinforce to people how lazy they are. You need daily exercise.... and it will help you with AVP. Get those exercises in people and get to watching and computing!!!!! Or better yet, work out with the AVP.. hell you have the Apple workout to motivate you right!?!?!?
More likely, bringing attention to it does not increase traffic to their websites.
Like literally everything Apple makes, their products aren’t for everyone. They don’t have a worldwide larger marketshare in any market they’re in.
1% of 200,000 (estimated sold to customers) is 2,000. Even if I believed that every random internet stranger that’s complaining actually owns one (even on this thread), there’s still not even 1% of folks that find it worth complaining about, fallacy or not.
Yeah, but by the same “many” that (with rose colored goggles) would say Apple Vision Pro is “JesusVR”.
A phone that only sells 1.4 million by the end of the first year is no “JesusPhone”.The biggest difference now is that “clickbait as news” is far more honed and rapid response. So, instead of a few starry eyed bloggers tossing out terms like JesusPhone (while the rest of the world ignores them), there is a tidal wave of negative content produced on any topic one would like to check. There are massive media delivery platforms that are designed primarily around the idea of “the more eyes you bring to me, for whatever reason, the more I’ll reward you for having folks see my ads”.
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And there will always be people complaining about something:
😫: "It's too heavy!"
😫: "It's too light!"
😫: "It's neither heavy or light!"
😫: "I can't make up my mind!"
😫: "I just love to whine about everything"
Sounds pretty simple: media exaggeration based on a few reddit posts. But, I'll be the first one to tell you that having a VR headset strapped to my face for my than a few minutes is obnoxious and uncomfortable. I just don't want something wrapped around my eyes like that.
They snuck in cellular hardware without telling anyone?
Or, more likely, Apple is focusing on what customers want (or care about, or matters to them) today, because they know that someone that bought their first Apple device 20-30 years ago won’t be buying very many more Apple devices in the future.
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You see, those devices, since they’re not “Apple Oculus” or “Apple Vive” wouldn’t get many views at all. BUT, even something that makes as much sense as “Apple Boulders will hurt your toe when you drop them on your toe” would get SO much engagement, it doesn’t even matter that it’s common sense.
I don’t understand a single point to promote it as mass market device. It is understandable to use for people with certain health conditions. Other than that is highly questionable.
Moreover I don’t understand why OLED PWM displays (70% of headache comes from these) are still not banned from the market. OLED is a good tech but PWM isn’t. It flickers faster than human mind can process, thus generating eye strain and headache for some individuals.
Also since when screens right in front of eyes became a thing? When I work near my Macbook or iMac I often procrastinate and move my head to look in the window, look around, go for a walk. I would instantly get claustrophobic feeling if I ever tried to wear this thing.
People are for sure free to use any device. But I think there should be more legal regulations in place towards devices that lead to health issues
Moreover I don’t understand why OLED PWM displays (70% of headache comes from these) are still not banned from the market. OLED is a good tech but PWM isn’t. It flickers faster than human mind can process, thus generating eye strain and headache for some individuals.
Also since when screens right in front of eyes became a thing? When I work near my Macbook or iMac I often procrastinate and move my head to look in the window, look around, go for a walk. I would instantly get claustrophobic feeling if I ever tried to wear this thing.
People are for sure free to use any device. But I think there should be more legal regulations in place towards devices that lead to health issues
So far, those who want it to die are the ones who can't afford it and just watch from the distance with envy.
Those users who bought it and had to return it for whatever reason, expect it to get better in the next major OS update so they could buy it again.
So my question is: Why are those anti-AVP people doing here writing their useless comments? Probably don't have anything better to do. if there was a better product out there, they would be on its own forum discussing it. But apparently there's no such product, so they come and try to cause havoc in our garden.
Re: "can't afford it and just watch from the distance with envy":
Most of us who don't like the concept of people being even *more* isolated by technology certainly could afford an AVP. I don't see daily hours-long VR goggle use as adding to general-purpose productivity, or even being healthy, either for individual physical and mental health, or being conducive for a healthy society. (Edited for grammar.)
Re: "they come and try to cause havoc in our garden":
Ah, no. This isn't "your garden", it is a public forum.
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That's was Apple's advice for those over-sensitive whining people (most likely fake AVP users) and for those who unfortunately are really experiencing issues due to a real physical condition.
That's your opinion. The rest of us don't think like that, and we are old enough to manage our usage and avoid being isolated from other people, or making our loved ones feel isolated.
It is public, but don't you have a forum for people like you? Go support them instead of trying to plant negativity here.
Some people bruise more easily than others. Certain medical conditions can cause easy bruising of skin. Other folks probably have stronger neck muscles than others and don’t get neck strain from using the device. As a motorcycle rider, i can tell you that having to hold your head upright against a 70 mph wind will definitely make your neck stronger.