Apple Vision Pro Personas Have to Wear Generic Glasses

[MacRumors]

With the Apple Vision Pro headset, the built-in cameras will create a customized "Persona" that resembles the user, and this Persona is used in video chat apps like FaceTime.

Creating a Persona involves a 3D capture of the face and upper body, but it turns out that Apple's technology won't be advanced enough to take glasses into account.

As noted by @M1Astra, visionOS code requires users to remove anything that covers the face, such as glasses. There does not appear to be any kind of secondary scanning mechanism to separately capture a user's glasses, and instead, Apple will allow users to "Select Eyewear" from a variety of options.

visionOS code suggests that Vision Pro users will be able to choose from a range of different glasses and sunglasses options that come in common shapes like square, rounded, oval, aviator, and more, with thick and thin frames.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710046954661527951

Users will likely be able to find something that is close to their own frames, but there may not be an exact match available. It is not yet clear if color options will be available, but it seems like a level of customization that Apple would offer.

Apple uses the Vision Pro cameras to bring a user's facial expressions and hand movements to their Persona, giving it a more realistic feel that mimics person-to-person interactions.

Personas are one aspect of visionOS that Apple is working on perfecting before the launch of the Vision Pro headset. In September, Apple began surveying developers who have the Vision Pro about their Personas, soliciting opinions on facial expressions, appearance matching, and more.

The Vision Pro headset is set to launch in early 2024 in the United States, and it will be priced at $3,500.

Article Link: Apple Vision Pro Personas Have to Wear Generic Glasses

 

[KurtWilde]

Of course the glasses API isn’t shipping day 1

 

[rictus007]

I guess that an avatar of me can have have fake eye glasses

 

[AbieloAltair]

Weird, to say the least.

 

[mazz0]

Huh? Was it ever suggested it’d scan glasses or is this headline basically “product doesn’t do random thing nobody had any reason to expect it to do”?

 

[SigurTom]

What about a pirate eye patch?

 

[DocMultimedia]

This product really isn't making me interested due to the fact that I wear glasses. Will need to buy prescription lenses, have a choice of N frames, and buy new inserts when my vision changes. I'm guessing Tim Cook doesn't have to worry about such things.

 

[macduke]

Cool. Now I can cosplay as Steve Jobs!

 

[Skyscraperfan]

Will there also be filters that will make the avatars look much more attractive than the real person? Can you save your avatar, so that it will not age?

 

[klasma]

Huh? Was it ever suggested it’d scan glasses or is this headline basically “product doesn’t do random thing nobody had any reason to expect it to do”?

Maybe because there are some people nobody would recognize if they aren’t wearing glasses as they always do. …like Tim Cook, I guess.

Yeah, I find it a bit weird too. All the more since you won’t be wearing glasses while using the Vision Pro.

 

[adrianjagielak]

This product really isn't making me interested due to the fact that I wear glasses. Will need to buy prescription lenses, have a choice of N frames, and buy new inserts when my vision changes. I'm guessing Tim Cook doesn't have to worry about such things.

Have you tried contact lenses yet? I recently switched from glasses, and it's much better than constantly wearing something on your face (and I say this having worn glasses for almost my entire life).

 

[Supercyborgninja]

More interested if it'll recognize beards tbh.

 

[spcopsmac21]

With the Apple Vision Pro headset, the built-in cameras will create a customized "Persona" that resembles the user, and this Persona is used in video chat apps like FaceTime.

Creating a Persona involves a 3D capture of the face and upper body, but it turns out that Apple's technology won't be advanced enough to take glasses into account.

As noted by @M1Astra, visionOS code requires users to remove anything that covers the face, such as glasses. There does not appear to be any kind of secondary scanning mechanism to separately capture a user's glasses, and instead, Apple will allow users to "Select Eyewear" from a variety of options.

visionOS code suggests that Vision Pro users will be able to choose from a range of different glasses and sunglasses options that come in common shapes like square, rounded, oval, aviator, and more, with thick and thin frames.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1710046954661527951

Users will likely be able to find something that is close to their own frames, but there may not be an exact match available. It is not yet clear if color options will be available, but it seems like a level of customization that Apple would offer.

Apple uses the Vision Pro cameras to bring a user's facial expressions and hand movements to their Persona, giving it a more realistic feel that mimics person-to-person interactions.

Personas are one aspect of visionOS that Apple is working on perfecting before the launch of the Vision Pro headset. In September, Apple began surveying developers who have the Vision Pro about their Personas, soliciting opinions on facial expressions, appearance matching, and more.

The Vision Pro headset is set to launch in early 2024 in the United States, and it will be priced at $3,500.

Article Link: Apple Vision Pro Personas Have to Wear Generic Glasses

Apple is making its own Nintendo MiiVerse. lol

 

[SamRyouji]

I can't wait to create my own persona with black mock turtleneck and stainless steel round glass, so I could look like a sad dood trying to look like Steve Jobs lol. 😛

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Will there also be filters that will make the avatars look much more attractive than the real person? Can you save your avatar, so that it will not age?

Seems inevitable... a whole industry of virtual beautification: remove age lines, scars, acne, gray, bald spot, wrong choice of tattoo, thinning, etc and present the perfect version of yourself in perfect attire for every meeting. You may be sitting there in pajamas with bed head and a tooth missing but "they" can see the idealized version of you... and you them (if they like).

I know the pessimists will see this as yet another thing NOT to like but look at reality meetings: makeup, hair, plastic surgery, implants, etc.

During covid, some people were attending meetings with only the upper parts of their bodies suited, etc. and the lower half in whatever state of cover. Vpro will only need a functional face to show emotion & reactions. The rest of the person can be in any state.

I see this as neither negative or positive... but not really that different than the assisted attempts at perfection presentations of individuals at in-person meetings. There are already abundant selfie improving filters. This would simply be video versions of such filters.

 

[trusso]

As cool as Vision Pro appears, it ain't for me. Though I admire the engineering. But even if I were all-in on it, I'd have no expectation (or care) on whether it allowed me to mimic my actual glasses. I mean, that's so far down the list I didn't even know it was there.

The real humdinger is when it won't need to manufacture a "persona" but will stream your real face.

And when it isn't a pair of ski goggles. (I still feel that Tim is forcing this to market.)

 

[maxfromdenmark]

Every FaceTime begins with: “oh you have changed eyewear. Those new ones are so better than the older ones “

 

[Kierkegaarden]

Why does it have to show glasses at all? Are people not going to recognize your avatar if it isn’t wearing glasses?

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

There are already apps to let people try a variety of frames to find their perfect glasses. Example…

It’s not hard to imagine opportunistic glasses sellers making their designs available for this and… if anyone compliments wearers “new” glasses, wearer can buy the frames for reality too.

 

[Mr. Dee]

This thing seems like more trouble than its really worth.

 

[quietstormSD]

Well that's the deal breaker for me! /s

 

[sffun]

Apple lost a perfect opportunity to name these "fursonas" instead of personas.

 

[MrGimper]

I mean it’s not like any important members of the apple leadership team wear glasses.

 

[klasma]

But will it support monocles? 🧐

A Star Trek Visor might also be fun.

 

[prime17569]

I think it would be a lot better if they could also allow people to scan a 3D model of their glasses using their iPhone or iPad's LiDAR scanner, then upload the scanned model to their Vision Pro.