Apple Vision Pro Personas Have to Wear Generic Glasses

[ackmondual]

Hmm, $3k for Lasik or $3k for Vision Pro. Tough choice 🤣

And even then, I hear Lasik is only for people who have really lousy vision. It's not recommended for folks who are somewhat nearsighted, etc.

 

[doelcm82]

I'm amazed at responses like this. Reminds me of when the first iPod was released (on my birthday! Oct 23, 2001). Even I was wondering how an "mp3 player" fit into Apple's product lineup, but we all know where that went. Fast forward to 2023 and so many of us no longer doubt Apple's vision. The Vision Pro is going to blow the VR/AR market out of the water. Nobody will get close to its processing power and precision for at least 5 years.

They will try. Which is exciting in itself.

 

[doelcm82]

Seems inevitable... a whole industry of virtual beautification: remove age lines, scars, acne, gray, bald spot, wrong choice of tattoo, thinning, etc and present the perfect version of yourself in perfect attire for every meeting. You may be sitting there in pajamas with bed head and a tooth missing but "they" can see the idealized version of you... and you them (if they like).

I know the pessimists will see this as yet another thing NOT to like but look at reality meetings: makeup, hair, plastic surgery, implants, etc.

During covid, some people were attending meetings with only the upper parts of their bodies suited, etc. and the lower half in whatever state of cover. Vpro will only need a functional face to show emotion & reactions. The rest of the person can be in any state.

I see this as neither negative or positive... but not really that different than the assisted attempts at perfection presentations of individuals at in-person meetings. There are already abundant selfie improving filters. This would simply be video versions of such filters.

None of this is new:

The Jetson's featured Morning Masks that characters used to make video calls when they weren't yet ready for the day:

The Jetsons was made in 1962 and takes place in 2062, so we're 40 years ahead (in that technology, at least).

 

[doelcm82]

And when it isn't a pair of ski goggles. (I still feel that Tim is forcing this to market.)

I disagree that it was rushed to market. Apple has been working on this since before the Apple Watch was introduced.

The ski-goggles is necessary to block out the light from the room. I don't think it's possible to make virtual objects seem solid and real by superimposing them on the real world, and I think Apple tried to make that work.

Someday they won't be like ski goggles. They won't even be like glasses. They'll be jacked right into your optic nerve. Or maybe right into your brain. I don't mind if they don't rush THAT to market.

 

[doelcm82]

And even then, I hear Lasik is only for people who have really lousy vision. It's not recommended for folks who are somewhat nearsighted, etc.

I had Lasik in 2000. I loved the results. Around 2015 I started to notice my vision was not as good. I needed glasses for reading (I knew it was coming, because in 2000 they told me that since I was 35 at the time I should expect to need reading glasses as my eyes aged, and the Lasik wouldn't prevent that). I also found that my distance vision was not as sharp. I had my eyes checked, and technically I still had 20/20 vision for distance, but I had astigmatism. Lasik can treat astigmatism (and they did when I had it), but they wouldn't give me a touch-up just for that.

So I wear glasses now.

 

[robvalentine]

That's it I'm out. not that the cost or lack of availability in the UK put me off. Or the need for one... but that's the final straw /s

 

[subjonas]

Why does it have to show glasses at all? Are people not going to recognize your avatar if it isn’t wearing glasses?

People don’t recognize Superman as Clark Kent without his glasses 🤷‍♂️

 

[subjonas]

This product really isn't making me interested due to the fact that I wear glasses. Will need to buy prescription lenses, have a choice of N frames, and buy new inserts when my vision changes. I'm guessing Tim Cook doesn't have to worry about such things.

Your virtual glasses will also require a virtual prescription that will cost money unfortunately.

 

[subjonas]

Seems inevitable... a whole industry of virtual beautification: remove age lines, scars, acne, gray, bald spot, wrong choice of tattoo, thinning, etc and present the perfect version of yourself in perfect attire for every meeting. You may be sitting there in pajamas with bed head and a tooth missing but "they" can see the idealized version of you... and you them (if they like).

I know the pessimists will see this as yet another thing NOT to like but look at reality meetings: makeup, hair, plastic surgery, implants, etc.

During covid, some people were attending meetings with only the upper parts of their bodies suited, etc. and the lower half in whatever state of cover. Vpro will only need a functional face to show emotion & reactions. The rest of the person can be in any state.

I see this as neither negative or positive... but not really that different than the assisted attempts at perfection presentations of individuals at in-person meetings. There are already abundant selfie improving filters. This would simply be video versions of such filters.

Oh the catfishing that this will unleash.

 

[George Dawes]

Rapidly going off this whole thing

Why not just make a pair of glasses like joe 90 with all this stuff built in ?

 

[Waragainstsleep]

I wonder if the Apple Vision Pro will be able to replicate user's glasses prescriptions with software.

 

[Tovenaar]

Probably some copyright issues with replicating branded glasses.

 

[jonnysods]

You get to use your real glasses in the Series 2 model, or the Ultra Max version only.

 

[Mac_The_Ripper]

For $3500, it should be "advanced enough" to take glasses into account. Especially when Apple's forever brilliant CEO still wears glasses.

 

[zach-coleman]

Have you tried contact lenses yet? I recently switched from glasses, and it's much better than constantly wearing something on your face (and I say this having worn glasses for almost my entire life).

I changed to contacts for many reasons but a small part because I thought AR/VR was going to take off eventually and glasses were always a pain with it, and honestly it was one of the best choices I ever made in my life. The small inconvenience of dealing with them is worth all the upsides.

Completely clear vision in all directions is the best part, my prescription was too poor to have that with glasses. It’s actually cheaper for me, too.

 

[sparkinstx]

What about a pirate eye patch?

ARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH Matey!

 

[seek3r]

This product really isn't making me interested due to the fact that I wear glasses. Will need to buy prescription lenses, have a choice of N frames, and buy new inserts when my vision changes. I'm guessing Tim Cook doesn't have to worry about such things.

I seem to remember them saying you’ll get one set of lenses for free when you buy it? Is your vision really that unstable? I wouldnt need new lenses more than once every three or four years or so personally… figure that’s maybe once over the main lifespan of the device

 

[kyjaotkb]

I think it would be a lot better if they could also allow people to scan a 3D model of their glasses using their iPhone or iPad's LiDAR scanner, then upload the scanned model to their Vision Pro.

That would make the LiDAR useful for something else than the Ikea app (I know, it's used for focusing when taking pictures, too...).

 

[kyjaotkb]

Why does it have to show glasses at all? Are people not going to recognize your avatar if it isn’t wearing glasses?

Probably not your intention but that comes through as an ableist comment. I have worn glasses since the age of 4 and most people I know have never seen me without glasses. I would not imagine an avatar of me without glasses. It's part of my appearance. Just like my nose, hair etc.

 

[seek3r]

And even then, I hear Lasik is only for people who have really lousy vision. It's not recommended for folks who are somewhat nearsighted, etc.

My eye doc literally told me not to get it. The way my vision is shifting over time I’ll prob just need reading glasses when I’m older, but if I got Lasik I’d eventually need permanent glasses again

 

[andywaynebrooks]

Those personas make people look like they live inside a Jehovah Witness flyer art.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Why would fake me need glasses at all?

 

[robbietop]

I don't get what is so appealing with this....and now my emoji can't have glasses if I even spend the ridiculous price tag for it?

 

[bloomfeld]

Apple uses the Vision Pro cameras to bring a user's facial expressions and hand movements to their Persona, giving it a more realistic feel that mimics person-to-person interactions.

This product has already given me headaches by just browsing all the ramifications in ergonomics. Or is it sour grapes, since I am out of the market due to visual impairment? Nah, don't need another device as I am already glued to screens all the time.

 

[Col4bin]

Whew! Good thing VisionPro only costs $3,500.00 😒