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Just seen Brian Tongs unboxing. It tells me the device is fiddly to set up, too many parts to click into place / adjust and just not elegant. This clearly is not the form factor Apple wanted to introduce to the world, but they had no choice but to hurry this product’s release.
The device needs customization to optimize it for each user -- so not sure why there wouldn't be a lot of parts. Watching MKBDH I thought set up was elegant. The parts and pieces - like the Zeiss lenses just "snap" into position. Whoa! Once it's customized for you, there's not a lot more you need to "click".
 
If you spend £3500 on a headset you have money to burn, when you can get the quest 3 for £480 and do much more with it
probably would step up to 512GB and a battery headset/strap.
Although they're hard to find and make a buzzing noise... so there's that.
 
Consensus seems to be that the product is relatively poor value for money, despite the clear case for it containing unparalleled technology and innovative manufacturing.

Apple maybe be trying to sell the idea that Vision is good value given how much high-tech is crammed into the device, but this is offset by the fact it doesn't do many things better than other devices we already own. And for areas where it is better, it's not a convenient device to wear for long periods and is very expensive for excelling in just a few areas.

This for me is the fatal flaw. I remember Steve Jobs introducing the iPad and saying that, for it to exist, it had to do some things far better than either an iPhone or a Mac. My take on Vision Pro is that for the few things it does do better, it's impossible to justify the price tag.

Can't say I'm surprised personally, but I do give Apple credit for taking the plunge and making the highest quality version of what is, in essence, a flawed concept. Until the day comes where it's priced more to the mainstream audience and is convenient enough to wear easily, it really is just a very expensive toy.
 
The biggest negative with VP is you‘re wearing dorky, heavy ski googles on your face. I wish reviewers would stop saying this is the future of computing/entertainment. This is not the future of anything other than dystopia. Heck, even if the future gets this tech into a pair of reading glasses it still will be dystopian. It’s funny how right before Apple Watch launched Tim Cook was on stage saying the wrist is interesting and that people only wear glasses because they have to. But now the future is having googles strapped to your face. No thanks.
I'm doing work right now at my desk with two 4K 27" displays.
I don't have a headache; I can tune out the rest of the room; and the displays will go as long as I have power in my office.

Compared with... Quest Pro or Vision Pro... how is it better?
 
The cheaper headsets like Meta Quest 3 are gaming - downside is my son gets bored with games and starts watching YouTube.
There's no f---ing reason to watch YouTube on a VR headset.
What? Have you experienced 360 degree videos on YouTube? The quality is subpar, but the immersion is spectacular
 
Oh it's not up for debate. The unbridled hate for anything she does is clearly rooted in anger and jealousy. Anger, because people here don't consider her to be a serious reviewer, in many cases because she's a woman, and ultimately because of her success. It drives people insane that she targets a more mainstream/casual audience with her content and that it works.

Boo. Freaking. Hoo.

If that was true, I would find Joanna Stern’s review annoying as well. I don’t. I find iJustine to be annoying AF. I couldn’t make through her video - she is HORRIBLE. I’m not a huge fan of Brian Tong either, so I guess I’m jealous of him as well, and maybe also anti-Asian?!?

If you find someone annoying either because of how they speak, how they behave, their personality, etc., it doesn’t mean that by default you are jealous of them, or that you’re angry with them.

But to put it another way, let me tell you what I thought of YOUR comments towards the poster who (accurately) mocked iJustine’s review style: They made me REALLY JEALOUS. 😊
 
I’ve only watched the half-hour The Verge review so far, but it’s a real review, with a conclusion of “it’s magic until it isn’t” and “not worth it right now” and “unclear if this can ever work well enough for mass-market adoption”.

Kind of sad that so much of journalism has sunk to the level that we are only inclined to believe they’re telling the truth if they don’t like it. Just another thing I don’t understand about business. Why does marketing think these astroturfed reviews work? It’s been a known thing for years. But they probably think that because it does work, despite some people being aware of it.

Edit: ok watched the whole Verge review and it was actually pretty good. Have been skeptical of them in the past but that was pretty fair. I don’t know about the others.
 
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It is shown in The Verge video. You take the VP off and it captures your face by looking to the side etc, just like FaceID basically but omg is that supposed to be iJustine in that video you linked to? I AM SCREAMING. This looks so bad! But the Verge video already showed how ridiculous it looks. They all laughed.

This is iJustine in Apple VR y'all. I am dying. Good thing Apple is calling it a beta!

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This is something that should improve exponentially as Apple focuses more on AI. I'm guessing the cartoon/impressionist painting style is somewhat deliberate until they are ready to roll out a "realistic" view that actually looks like real life.
 
I saw nothing on The Verge review I can’t do on my 500€ quest and that one actually has games and supports YouTube VR
of course but visionOS is too smoothy compared with quest, thats my point, besides you don't need a horrible pointer when you use the hand tracking, meta have to make few changes,
 
I see a bunch of people here complaining that Apple isn't letting reviewers give honest reviews, who are themselves reviewing reviews they haven't even watched yet. Marques, Joanna, and Nilay were literally laughing about how bad the personas were. Nilay had a bunch of criticisms about his experiences with the device. There was no gushing praise in the three videos I watched.
It doesn’t matter. As long as they are given review units, their reviews are going to be biased.

True reviews are only from those who spend their own money to purchase the device. There can’t be any external influence.

Apple sends these units to try to sell more devices, therefore, these are advertisements.
 
You've not watched any 3D 180VR videos on YouTube have you.
Kind of off topic but I hope the industry figures out how to do streaming VR video correctly. 180VR YouTube videos look awfully compressed when viewing.
 
Yeah that supports your argument. Not.

Look. The screens are 4k per eye. That doesn't make it an 8k display.

The original source video resolution is irrelevant. I should know. I was creating 12k 360 degree video almost a decade ago.
The screens are 11.5 million pixels per eye. That's above 4K, just like Apple states in their marketing. 4K = 8.3 million pixels.
 
The reviews I watched are where I expected. Very cool, but still a forward looking to it offering a game changer take.
 
Never watched any of his videos, but Brian Tong's video is better at actually showing how the device works than the Verge and WSJ videos. Yeah, maybe it's a bit over enthusiastic, and more of an uncritical marketing video, but it's also more informative on the actual functionality of the device.

 
Kind of off topic but I hope the industry figures out how to do streaming VR video correctly. 180VR YouTube videos look awfully compressed when viewing.

Unfortunately yes. I even tried 8K videos and it’s still a blurry mess in 360 VR. I was expecting to watch some nice holiday vacation goal videos but it hurts my eyes and looks bad. It’s basically just a blown up and zoomed in video? Idk it reminds me of sitting too close to a tv and then you can make out all the flaws
 
Exactly and the Vision doesn't even have YouTube app or games, Quest 3 is the right price for this kind of product and no amount of pixels and personas make the vision pro worth that price for what it actually does.

And as the verge points out don’t expect YouTube vr. Unless Apple or other third parties pump out the immersive “higher quality” content, you’ll quickly run out of it. Apple has 3. Just 3 immersive 3d 180 vr videos.

That’s the content you’ll want to see. Sports. Etc. and there’s nothing. YouTube is a no go. Verge even says much of the vr content in safari (or on a browser) is a no go.

If this is what people are wanting then get a quest. Much more content. On avp you’re limited to paid 3d content that you’ve seen countless times already. No games hardly. It’s basically the spatial multi window experience that either sells you on it or not. And that is going to require a kb and mouse to use with any type of efficiency.
 
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If you find someone annoying either because of how they speak, how they behave, their personality, etc., it doesn’t mean that by default you are jealous of them, or that you’re angry with them.

No, it doesn't, but it certainly starts to look a lot more suspect when you (speaking broadly here, not specific to you) have to bring it up EVERY time MR posts one of her reviews in a story. It really doesn't take a genius...
 
It is shown in The Verge video. You take the VP off and it captures your face by looking to the side etc, just like FaceID basically but omg is that supposed to be iJustine in that video you linked to? I AM SCREAMING. This looks so bad! But the Verge video already showed how ridiculous it looks. They all laughed.

This is iJustine in Apple VR y'all. I am dying. Good thing Apple is calling it a beta!

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This looks like those really bad 1970s/1980s depictions of JC of Bethlehem!
 
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