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Plane, train, drunk on a couch.. I just can't wait for somebody to fall asleep with one of these things on. 🖌️ 🎨 🖼️
 
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We don’t have privacy on planes, except for in the bathrooms. We are all sharing that space. No one walks up and down the isles naked, get over it.
but how will they know you're 'covertly' recording them if they don't notice the huge goggles on your face and recording indicator light *clutches pearls*
 
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Yes. Yes I would. In fact, I would give someone a loaner just so they would not bother me or awkwardly watch what I’m doing or even start some conversation with me.

I sincerely don’t see how on earth this could be worse than someone setting up a laptop and dropping the seat tray down while eating snacks and a free drink. Give it to a kid to stop them from bouncing around. I mean, shoot, this should be mandatory for in-flight entertainment. Apple or otherwise.

People on here are just about to claim these “goggles” infringe on their rights!!! Somehow!!! Amazing.

So, you see it as a kind of suppressor. A device that isolates people FROM you.

Huh. Weird, since that’s a key element of my argument against AVP.

And no, no one said anything about legal rights.

Problems arise in these discussions because people often read what they want to see, not what’s actually on the page in front of them.
 
It’s amusing how many people here can’t conceptualize the captive nature of being on an airplane.

Apologetics don’t rebut my comment. Sorry.
what's amusing is how you think this device that is way more conspicuous than every portable electronics device launched in the last decade is somehow more covert and a bigger privacy risk. once you can quantify your argument with some logic beyond "it has a camera on it + planes are enclosed spaces" i'd be happy to take this conversation seriously.
 
what's amusing is how you think this device that is way more conspicuous than every portable electronics device launched in the last decade is somehow more covert and a bigger privacy risk. once you can quantify your argument with some logic beyond "it has a camera on it + planes are enclosed spaces" i'd be happy to take this conversation seriously.

Your reductionism around what I wrote renders your rebuttal basically irrelevant.
 
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Having failed to demonstrate any such thing I’ll go ahead and ignore your supposed “rebuttal.”


Your point is flawed & is actually the opposite of what you think you mean, as the device is not covert, anyone can see people wearing it, and can see a recording indicator, same as using a proper video camera.

A phone, tablet, and other devices are covert.
 
Your point is flawed & is actually the opposite of what you think you mean, as the device is not covert, anyone can see people wearing it, and can see a recording indicator, same as using a proper video camera.

A phone, tablet, and other devices are covert.

Interesting rationalization, but no. The fact that you can see it doesn’t make it more overt. In point of fact we don’t know what method the device uses to alert others that a recording is in process. Unless your assertion is that we have to assume that any time someone is wearing one of these they’re also recording. In that case fully expect this to be banned in a whole range of contexts.
 
Go ahead and look at the Criticism section under the sub-head “privacy concerns.”


I’m not making this stuff up out of whole cloth. There are genuine issues around devices like this and privacy.
To clarify, just so we're on the same page, are you asking me to take the criticism of google glass, a completely different product, with an entirely different design, and not even remotely similar use case, and apply it to Apple Vision Pro? Is that the basis of your criticism?
 
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To clarify, just so we're on the same page, are you asking me to take the criticism of google glass, a completely different product, with an entirely different design, and not even remotely similar use case, and apply it to Apple Vision Pro? Is that the basis of your criticism?

So, just so we’re on the same page, you imagine similar privacy concerns don’t impact AVP because… Apple?
 
I gave three reasons why it doesn't apply in my sentence, but sure. yes. it's because Apple.


Even Apple is aware that privacy is a concern around these systems. So “because Apple” isn’t actually the home run you think it is.
 
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Talk to me again when you’ve actually read the entry.
My bad, they must have added one at some point after I stopped following it.

Google devices are easier to hack though, so slimmer chance for Apple ones.

Even still, there’s hundreds of devices that are much more covert, such as phones, tablets, button/lapel cameras.

So you have a minor point, but it’s totally mitigated by the fact that is the AVP is more obvious. Google glass can easily be mistaken for normal glasses to the layperson…..
 
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Even Apple is aware that privacy is a concern around these systems. So “because Apple” isn’t actually the home run you think it is.
You literally made "because Apple" up yourself and now you're trying to argue against it for me? This is incredible.
 
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